The crucifixion drama

[Deb]

I just happened to come across two Easter-related articles. They caught my eye because of the re-reading I've been doing about the return of the Christ entity, and in the process, Seth's information about the crucifixion story. All I can say is that whatever form the Christ entity returns, some extremely extraordinary things will have to occur in order to unite the consciousness on this planet. And in a way that inspires trust and acceptance.

Note: Sorry, I've tried to cut down on the quotations as much as I could, but there are times when I feel like I could just quote an entire Seth book.

One: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/04/14/whats-so-good-about-good-friday.html
The other: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/04/15/easter-why-resurrection-is-most-important-truth-in-world.html:

"In fact, immediately after he rose from the grave, Jesus appeared to his followers and gave them a command that Christians call the "Great Commission." In this commission, he reveals three powerful truths about the resurrection:

1. The resurrection reveals Jesus as the final authority in this world.
2. The resurrection compels us to tell the world about Jesus.
3. The resurrection reminds us that world history will end on a joyful note.

"In effect he was saying, "I will walk alongside of you as you bear witness, and, always remember that at the end of the age, I will return to set the world aright. I will establish a world-wide kingdom in which justice will roll down like the waters, in which my authority will be recognized, and in which people from all nations, ethnic groups, and social classes will live together in peace, love, and unity."

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From one of the two translations of The Nag Hammadi, The Second Treatise of the Great Seth,

"And I did not die in reality but in appearance, lest I be put to shame by them because these are my kinsfolk. I removed the shame from me and I did not become fainthearted in the face of what happened to me at their hands. I was about to succumb to fear, and I <suffered> according to their sight and thought, in order that they may never find any word to speak about them. For my death, which they think happened, (happened) to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death. For their Ennoias did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me. It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. I was another upon Whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the archons and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance."

{A second translation can be found here.}

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From "Seth Speaks"  (session 591, August 11, 1971):

(Just past 9:50) Christ, the historical Christ, was not crucified... You will have to give me time here. (Pause.)

He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was a necessity.

Christ did not take part in it (Pause.) There was a conspiracy in which Judas: played a role an attempt to make a martyr out of Christ. The man chosen was drugged—hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross (see Luke:23) —and he was told that he was the Christ.

He believed that he was. He was one of deluded, but he also himself believed that he, not the historical Christ, was to fulfill the prophecies.

Mary came because she was, full of sorrow for the man who believed he was her son. Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be "blamed."

(Pause at 10.00) This is difficult to explain even for me to unravel. The tomb was empty  because the same group carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after (see Matthew 28). (Long, pause.) Christ was a great psychic.  He caused the wounds to appear then upon his own body, and appeared both physically and in out-of-body states to his followers. He tried however, to explain what had happened, and his position, but those who were not in on the conspiracy would not understand, and misread his statements.

Peter three times denied the Lord (Matthew 26), saying he did not know him because he knew that that person was not Christ.

The plea, "Peter, why hast thou forsaken me?" came from the man who believed he was Christ—the drugged version.  Judas pointed out that man. He knew of the conspiracy, and feared that the real Christ would be captured. Therefore he handed over to the authorities a man known to be self-styled messiah—to save, not destroy, the life of the historical Christ.

(10:05. Jane's pace had speeded up considerably now.)

Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meanings of the human psyche, and so the Crucifixion per se became far greater reality then the actual physical events that occurred at the time.

Only the deluded are in danger of, or capable of, such self sacrifice, you see, or find it necessary. Only those still bound up in ideas of crime and punishment would be attracted to that kind of religious drama, and find within it deep echoes of their own subjective feelings.

Christ knew however, clairvoyantly, that these events in one way or another would occur, and the probable dramas that could result. The man involved could not be swerved from his subjective decision. He would be sacrificed to make the old Jewish prophecies come true, and he could not be dissuaded.

(10:10) In the Last Supper when Christ said, "This is my body, and this is my blood," he meant to show that the spirit was within all matter, interconnected, and yet apart—that his own spirit was independent of his body, and also in his own way to hint that he should no longer be identified with his body. For he knew the dead body would not be his own.

This was all misunderstood. Christ then changed his mode of behavior, appearing quite often in out-of-body states to his followers. (See John 20, 21; Matthew 28, Luke 24.) Before, he had not done this to that degree.  He tried to tell them however that he was not dead, and they chose to take him symbolically. (A one-minute pause.) 

His physical presence was no longer necessary, and was an embarrassment under the circumstances. He simply willed himself out of it.

(10:17. "Wow," Jane said after she came out of trance, "nobody'll like that..."

From "Seth Speaks"  (session 560, November, 23 1970) 

(9:46) ...There were three separate individuals whose history blended, and they became known collectively as Christ—hence many discrepancies in your records. These were all males because at that time of your development, you would not have accepted a female counterpart.

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(Long pause at 9:52.) The events as they are recorded, however, did not occur in history. The crucifixion of Christ was a psychic, but not a physical event. Ideas of almost unimaginable magnitude were played out.

(Pause at 9:55.) Judas, for example, was not a man in your terms. He was - like all the other Disciples - a blessed, created "fragment personality," formed by the Christ personality. He represented the self-betrayer. He dramatized a portion of each individual's personality that focuses upon physical reality in a grasping manner, and denies the inner self out of  greed.

Each of the twelve represented qualities of personality that belong to one individual, and Christ as you know him represented the inner self. The twelve, therefore, plus Christ as you know him (the one figure composed of the three) represented an individual earthly personality—the inner self—and twelve main characteristics connected with the egotistical self. As Christ was surrounded by the Disciples, so the inner self is surrounded by these physically oriented characteristics, each drawn outward toward daily reality on the one hand, and yet orbiting the inner self.

(10:03) The Disciples, therefore, were given physical reality by the inner self, as all of your earthly characteristics come out of your inner nature. This was a living parable, made flesh among you —a cosmic play worked out for your behalf, couched in terms that you could understand.

The lessons were made plain, as all the ideas behind them were personified. If you will forgive the term, this was like a local morality play, put on in your corner of the universe. This does not mean it was less real than you previously supposed. In fact, the implications of what is said here should clearly hint at the more powerful aspects of godhood.

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The three Christ personalities were born upon your planet, and indeed became flesh among you. None of these was crucified. The twelve Disciples were materializations from the energies of these three personalities — their combined energies. They were then fully endowed with individuality, however, but their main task was to clearly manifest within themselves certain abilities inherent within all men.

(10:12) The same kinds of dramas in different ways have been given, and while the drama is always different, it is always the same. This does not mean that a Christ has appeared within each system of reality. It means that the idea of God has manifested within each system in a way that is comprehensible to the inhabitants.

This drama continues to exist. It does not belong, for example, to your past. Only you have placed it there. This does not mean that it always reoccurs.  The drama, then was far from meaningless, and the spirit of Christ, in your terms, is legitimate. It is the probable God-drama that you choose to perceive. There were others that were perceived, but not by you, and there are other such dramas existing now.

Now: Whether or not the Crucifixion occurred physically, it was a psychic event, and exist as do all the other events connected with the drama.

Many were physical but some were not. The psychic event affected your world quite as much as the physical one, as is obvious. The whole drama occurred as a result of mankind's need. It was created as a result of that need, grew out of it, but it did not originate within your system of reality.

(Pause at 10:41) Other religions were based upon different dramas, in which ideas were acted out in a way that was comprehensible to various cultures. Unfortunately, the differences between the dramas often led to misunderstandings, and they were used as excuses for wars.

[LenKop]

Happy Easter to you too, Deb. 

And to all here on this great forum.

Len

[Deb]

Happy Easter to you too, Deb. 

Oh, YOU!
I tried so hard to refrain from saying that myself, lol.

[Neo]

I just came across this video on Youtube and wanted to share it here:



It is a bit long winded and there is quite a bit of unnecessary talking, but the actual content of the video was really interesting, as they seem to support what Seth said about the crucifixion - that the actual person known as Jesus was not crucified, but instead another man was crucified as him. I just recently started watching the Farsight videos, even though I've come across them on Youtube a lot lately. I clicked on them a couple of times before but never had the patience to actually focus and watch them, but now realized that they have a lot of very interesting content and their remote viewing seems to be very accurate - they even have monthly remote viewing videos that seem to be quite accurate at predicting the upcoming news stories for the next month. I found their productions about the Pyramid of Giza and Atlantis very fascinating as well.

Among the Seth ideas, the story about Jesus, Christ personality and the crucifixion has always been one of the most confusing for me, but it is fascinating to see another source "confirm" the Seth idea of the crucifixion - though this particular video wasn't the best from Farsight, as they only used one remote viewer as opposed to multiple like they do in their newer videos, and they didn't show the footage from the actual remote viewing session. Nevertheless I thought it's worth a share.