Mental Conversations

[jbseth]

Hi All,

Sometimes I have some mental conversations and in regards to Seth's concepts, I have some questions about these and I'd like to know what you think.


Example 1:

Sometimes, I'll have a problem that I try to solve in my mind. Typically, in this type of a situation, I end up having a mental conversation that might go something like this.

(1) What if I try to make the part longer?

(2) No, that won't work because it's too wide.

(1) Yeah right, well, how about if I make it narrower and then longer?

(2) Yeah, that'll work; let's do that.

I'm going to guess that many of you have had similar situations occur in your life when you've had similar types of mental conversations.

In the mental conversations that I've had like that above, I usually consider myself to be the person who's making the (1) comments, and it also feel's like I'm the person who's making the (2) comments as well.   


Example 2:
Sometimes, on a weekend morning, for example, after reading a Seth book, I'll go and take a shower. While I'm in the shower, I'll think about something that I had just read in the Seth book and I'll end up having a similar mental conversation like the one above, only typically, in this case, the comments coming from (2) seem to be very wise and deep, kind of like Seth's.

In this situation, I'm not sure if I'm the person who's making the (2) comments as well.


Do any of you ever have mental conversations like this?

If so, who do you think (2) is and where does the information from (2) come from?

 

[Deb]

Do any of you ever have mental conversations like this?

If so, who do you think (2) is and where does the information from (2) come from?

Yes I sometimes have mental conversations like that, and sometimes quietly out loud if I'm alone. I see it as digging through my memory banks for answers, a natural problem solving process. Sometimes a verbal approach to a problem offers a different perspective. But other times an answer comes from a deeper place as you say. Something experience or knowledge won't account for. What is it about water? I get this information in showers and also while washing dishes. At those times I feel I've tapped into my inner self, the place Seth says we have unlimited resources available to us. At those times mentally I say, "Oh, thank you. Or thank me?"

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[LarryH]

Before retirement, I worked in a typical cubical office space. I frequently talked to myself while solving a design problem. Somehow, it worked to verbally express what I was thinking. I tried to keep the volume down, but sometimes someone would ask my why I was talking to myself. I would respond that this was the only way that I could have an intelligent conversation around there.

[jbseth]

Hi Deb,

Thanks for your reply.

Yeah, I also think that the deep and wise voice that comes into my mind, while I'm in the shower for example is probably my inner self. Yes and I've noticed that this occurs with water too. It has also occurred with me while I'm watering the flowers in the yard and when I'm weeding as well. I'm not sure if this is a water thing, an earth grounding thing or maybe its just that my mind drifts off into a non-A1 consciousness state while I'm performing these activities. 

I think the (1) voice in my mind is probably my ego. However, the (2) voice in Example 1, seems to be me as well.

As I think about this, this seems strange to me because it indicates that "I" can have a conversation with my ego. If I'm correct in my assumption that (1) is my ego, then who is this (2) part of me that is having this conversation with my ego. It doesn't feel like the inner self; it doesn't necessarily seem that wise.

As a separate issue, I don't recall ever having more than a 2 way conversation with myself.


Seth does say somewhere (I'll see if I can find it, I think it might be in "The Nature of the Psyche") that we do have more than one mind, but I'm not sure this is what he was referring to in that context.

[jbseth]

Hi LarryH

In your post you said:

Before retirement, I worked in a typical cubical office space. I frequently talked to myself while solving a design problem. Somehow, it worked to verbally express what I was thinking. I tried to keep the volume down, but sometimes someone would ask my why I was talking to myself. I would respond that this was the only way that I could have an intelligent conversation around there.


That's funny, thanks.

[jbseth]

I frequently talked to myself while solving a design problem. Somehow, it worked to verbally express what I was thinking.

I think this is fairly common actually. While I don't do this very often myself, my wife does. Every once in a while I'll ask her something, while unbeknownst to me, she is in the middle of a verbal conversation with herself and she jokingly tells me to quit interrupting her conversation.

[usmaak]

I have this all of the time with everything I do.  I am a programmer and I write apps as a hobby.  When I'm deep into coding, it's like there's two people in the room - me and me.  Sometimes I even say the "first me" part out loud.  Fortunately the "second me" part has never answered out loud.