Gary Lachman on "the two worlds"

[Sena]

Lachman is a writer, not a spiritual teacher:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Lachman

He writes about the "two worlds", and I wonder whether these worlds correspond to Seth's Framework One and Framework Two:

"THE TWO WORLDS: I should at this point clarify what I mean when speaking of 'two worlds'. There is, of course, only one world. I don't mean planet or galaxy, but the reality in which we find ourselves. I cannot walk into another world in the same way that I can walk into another room or another house. I am here, in this universe, and there doesn't seem to be any exit doors, unless you consider death one, and we are not even sure about that....... The idea of an actual 'other' world we can escape to, is a literal interpretation of what is really a metaphysical distinction. Many a Romantic has taken to the road, in search of some other place, where life will be much better than it is wherever he started out from. The grass is always greener on the other side, until you get there and you see it is exactly the same shade as in your own garden. We all know that no matter where we go physically, 'we' are still there. If there is another world then, it isn't 'out there', but 'in here', and it consists of seeing this world in a different way than we 'normally' do. I put 'normally' in quotation marks because we will look at exactly how normal this is." (from "The Caretakers of the Cosmos: Living Responsibly in an Unfinished World" by Gary Lachman)

From the Kindle edition:  http://amzn.eu/9PHtoaL

[Deb]

Thanks for this!

Well from what you'd quoted, it sure seems to fit in with the F1/F2 concepts presented by Seth. A couple of coincidences: the cover of the book has the Vitruvian Man on it, and the author was born in the same town as my father.

Interesting too that he was a founding member of the Blondie group, inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Multi-talented.

I'm assuming you're reading the book, I'd love to know what you think as you get deeper into it. It has lots of five star reviews. He also has written a LOT of books. A Secret History of Consciousness (just came out last month), looks good. From the description:

"In A Secret History of Consciousness, consciousness is seen not as a result of neurons and molecules, but as responsible for them - meaning, it is not imported from the outer world, but rather creates it. In this view, consciousness is a living, evolving presence, the development of which can be traced through different historical periods, and which evolves along a path to a broader, more expansive state. What that consciousness may be like and how it may be achieved is a major concern of this book."

Sounds pretty Seth-like to me.

[inavalan]

@Deb  You can read the book's introduction, and get an idea of this author's writing here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=b15rBgAAQBAJ&lpg=PT2&pg=PT19#v=onepage&q=outline%20of%20the%20book&f=false

So many authors and books ... It is difficult to sift through them to find the worthy ones. I remember Seth saying that we should get more in touch with our subconscious and ask it whenever we make choices, as it has access to much more information than our outer-conscious has. He recommended pendulum.

I'll pass.

[Sena]

In A Secret History of Consciousness, consciousness is seen not as a result of neurons and molecules, but as responsible for them - meaning, it is not imported from the outer world, but rather creates it.

Deb, Lachman is quite open-minded and his ideas seem conisistent with the Seth teachings, even though he does not appear to have read the Seth books.

[inavalan]

Somebody mentioned this book:

One Voice, Sacred Wisdom: Revealing Answers to Some of Life's Greatest Mysteries from Your Guides, Spirits and Angels by James Schwartz (Paperback – June 19, 2017)

I browsed it at google-books, seemed interesting, so I borrowed an electronic copy from my library.

[Deb]

Somebody mentioned this book:

One Voice, Sacred Wisdom: Revealing Answers to Some of Life's Greatest Mysteries from Your Guides, Spirits and Angels by James Schwartz (Paperback – June 19, 2017)

Interesting. Please let us know what you think about the book.

Recently a friend tried to get me to attend a Brian Weiss workshop in NY. It's a training workshop for hypnotherapists, teaching them how to past-life regress their patients. It was extremely expensive and not a good fit for me: I'm not a hypnotherapist, have no interest in becoming one. But I would love to be hypnotized, have tried twice in the past with a professional hypnotherapist, to no avail.

SO this book does look interesting, got a lot of good reviews. One negative review said "Very Jane Roberts" and it seems she rejects the concepts because she is exhausted with the "blame the victim" mentality and does not accept the idea that she may have attracted her illness. So, to me her "bad" review was good in that she was essentially saying the book was Seth-like.

The exciting part for me with this book comes from the author being a professional hypnotherapist with offices about a 15 minute drive from where I live. I just signed up for his email list. Looks like he could use a website redesign too.   

[inavalan]

 @Deb

The best book on self-hypnosis, I've read, is Leslie LeCron's "Self-Hypnosis". It is only 60 pages long, first half being about how to get into self-hypnosis, second half gives a few concrete applications.

You can borrow it from here (free):
https://openlibrary.org/works/OL15151730W/Self_hypnosis

LeCron wrote several other good books on hypnosis:
https://openlibrary.org/authors/OL18...slie_M._LeCron

There are some interesting hypnosis related articles in his "Experimental Hypnosis":
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL2460..._on_r esearch

• Milton Erickson's "Deep Hypnosis" article is very informative

This is a recommendation for learning self-hypnosis, to get into trance. Further, you'll have to practice it, and use it as a tool to get what you want.

I recommend self-hypnosis over being hypnotized by a hypnotherapist, because their thoughts and beliefs will influence you, no matter what careful they might be.

[Deb]

I recommend self-hypnosis over being hypnotized by a hypnotherapist, because their thoughts and beliefs will influence you, no matter what careful they might be.

I suppose people would run into that situation with any type of therapy involving the mind, whether hypnosis or psychotherapy.

Thanks for the links, the Open Library is a cool resource. I'll check out the book, 60 pages would be a quick read. Seth (and others) say that we hypnotize ourselves all the time and just don't label it as such. Even watching TV or a movie is a form of hypnosis. I should read these chapters again:

"There is no magic in hypnosis. Each of you utilize it constantly. (See the 620th session in Chapter Four.) Only when particular procedures are assigned to it, and when it is set aside from normal life, does hypnotic suggestion seem so esoteric. Structured hypnosis merely allows the subject to utilize full powers of concentration, thereby activating unconscious mechanisms."
—NoPR Chapter 15: Session 658, April 23, 1973

"(Smiling, and progressively louder and deeper:) Sixteen, entitled: "Natural Hypnosis: A Trance Is a Trance Is a Trance." [...]"
—NoPR Chapter 16: Session 658, April 23, 1973

[Sena]

There is no magic in hypnosis. Each of you utilize it constantly.

Deb, I was told, on another forum, that when we drive a car we hypnotize ourselves. I think this makes sense. What happens in driving is that we dissociate, so that an independent part of the mind focuses on driving. If we were conscious of every driving action we would soon crash.