Coffee growing and climate change don't go well together

[Mark M]

Unless we soon see a drastic reduction of emissions worldwide, climate change will devour one of our key global crops: coffee. Specifically, a recent report from The Climate Institute predicts that, at its current rate, climate change will cut the global area suitable for coffee production by as much as 50 percent. They also project that 30 years from then, in 2080, wild coffee will officially become extinct.

https://thehungersite.greatergood.com/clicktogive/ths/petition/CoffeeClimateChange-ths?gg_source=AUT&gg_medium=house&gg_campaign=Ad-Campaign%20Button_Petition_Ensure%20Coffee%20Survives%20Climate%20Change_THS_CoffeeClimateChange-ths&_ga=2.229852699.602360047.1646015099-155572416.1581219965

[inavalan]

Unless we soon see a drastic reduction of emissions worldwide, climate change will devour one of our key global crops: coffee. Specifically, a recent report from The Climate Institute predicts that, at its current rate, climate change will cut the global area suitable for coffee production by as much as 50 percent. They also project that 30 years from then, in 2080, wild coffee will officially become extinct.

https://thehungersite.greatergood.com/clicktogive/ths/petition/CoffeeClimateChange-ths?gg_source=AUT&gg_medium=house&gg_campaign=Ad-Campaign%20Button_Petition_Ensure%20Coffee%20Survives%20Climate%20Change_THS_CoffeeClimateChange-ths&_ga=2.229852699.602360047.1646015099-155572416.1581219965

I have low confidence in what scientists predict, in all domains, but especially in those predictions intended to scare you and to make you feel guilty.

The history of "climate change" predictions doesn't instill confidence. The way "science" handled and hand;es this pandemic, as the history of how other pandemics were handled are painful examples of incompetence and arrogance.

People are people. Not better, nor worse.

These are notes from a book about science and scientists that the public has little knowledge of:
     http://samkean.com/books/the-icepick-surgeon/extras/notes/

• Murder, Fraud, Sabotage, Piracy, and Other Dastardly Deeds Perpetrated in the Name of Science
  
  From New York Times bestselling author Sam Kean comes the gripping, untold history of science's darkest secrets.
  
  Science is a force for good in the world—at least usually. But sometimes, when obsession gets the better of scientists, they twist a noble pursuit into something sinister. Under this spell, knowledge isn't everything, it's the only thing—no matter the cost. Bestselling author Sam Kean tells the true story of what happens when unfettered ambition pushes otherwise rational men and women to cross the line in the name of science, trampling ethical boundaries and often committing crimes in the process.
  
  The Icepick Surgeon masterfully guides the reader across two thousand years of history, beginning with Cleopatra's dark deeds in ancient Egypt. The book reveals the origins of much of modern science in the transatlantic slave trade of the 1700s, as well as Thomas Edison's mercenary support of the electric chair and the warped logic of the spies who infiltrated the Manhattan Project. But the sins of science aren't all safely buried in the past. Many of them, Kean reminds us, still affect us today. We can draw direct lines from the medical abuses of Tuskegee and Nazi Germany to current vaccine hesitancy, and connect icepick lobotomies from the 1950s to the contemporary failings of mental-health care. Kean even takes us into the future, when advanced computers and genetic engineering could unleash whole new ways to do one another wrong.
  
  Unflinching, and exhilarating to the last page, The Icepick Surgeon fuses the drama of scientific discovery with the illicit thrill of a true-crime tale. With his trademark wit and precision, Kean shows that, while science has done more good than harm in the world, rogue scientists do exist, and when we sacrifice morals for progress, we often end up with neither.

[Deb]

These are my opinions, beliefs, whatever but I'm sure I'll catch some flack here for not going along with the OLC. And I've always bucked the system... for as long as I can remember.

My opinion (based on what I've read, presented by science) is that the climate of this planet has always been changing. Ice ages, tropical ages, etc. come and go. The planet survives. Life on the planet may not, but it returns. Seth said as much. I trust in the strength, adaptability and wisdom of Mother Nature. And I trust Seth.

I don't trust projections. Or speculation. How long have we heard, over and over, that the world will end in X number of years? Or that we have caused plants or animals to be extinct, only for them to show up decades later?

I trust that I create my own reality. I also love and respect Earth. I do my best to cause no harm. Guilt? No thanks. That smacks too much of original sin to me. I recycle. I compost. I garden and preserve foods. I have solar panels. I appreciate—and don't waste. People that drive gas driven cars are ridiculed. I can relate, there are a lot of large SUVs and ego-driven Hummers in my area. I drive a Prius Eco that gets 57 mpg on its worst day. And I get ridiculed for that because the batteries in electric and hybrid cars are worse for the environment than the gas guzzlers. People spend $40,000 for a Tesla (more than the first house I bought), and it costs about $15,000 to replace the environmentally poisonous batteries. Who can afford that and what's the point? Also, windmills are notorious for killing birds, and only work when there is strong wind. Solar has its own issues and the panels are not environment-friendly. Windmill blades are not recyclable and so they are buried. For now, there is no perfect substitute. Until Tesla's unlimited energy field is harnessed, there is no good answer for any of this. We are doing our best to progress.

I trust Seth in that I make my own reality. Hopefully others on this forum can relate to that. I do my best to not mess things up and contribute to perceived problems. I do my best to envision a better world rather than doom and gloom. Right now, I think that's all I can do.

I think I live in a different reality where life is not doomed, and tea is as good as coffee.

[Mark M]

From Sess 604:

"In some respects the over enthusiastic use of the sound
was responsible for the flood mentioned in the Bible, and other
literature. It was for this reason that many attempts were made
to warn against the impending disaster. The use of sound was
important at various times in irrigating dry areas, quite
literally by pulling water from a distance.

(11:22) "There were several characteristics that proved
difficult, however. Literally, the sound traveled further often
than was intended, causing consequences not planned upon...."

And my belief is that in our time we have overenthusiastically engaged in the use of fossil fuels.

Turns out methane is even more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2 and a recent Stanford study found that gas stoves, new or old, even when turned off, leak methane.

Methane aside, cooking with gas pollutes your indoor air.

So, given my only use for my gas stove is cooking rice or pasta, I have purchased an electric induction hotplate for doing that.

"It only takes a few minutes of stove usage to reach levels of nitrogen oxides that have been deemed unsafe by the EPA."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/your-gas-stove-is-leaking-methane-even-when-it-s-turned-off/ar-AATeRp9

[inavalan]

From Sess 604:

"In some respects the over enthusiastic use of the sound
was responsible for the flood mentioned in the Bible, and other
literature. It was for this reason that many attempts were made
to warn against the impending disaster. The use of sound was
important at various times in irrigating dry areas, quite
literally by pulling water from a distance.

(11:22) "There were several characteristics that proved
difficult, however. Literally, the sound traveled further often
than was intended, causing consequences not planned upon...."

And my belief is that in our time we have overenthusiastically engaged in the use of fossil fuels.

Turns out methane is even more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2 and a recent Stanford study found that gas stoves, new or old, even when turned off, leak methane.

Methane aside, cooking with gas pollutes your indoor air.

So, given my only use for my gas stove is cooking rice or pasta, I have purchased an electric induction hotplate for doing that.

"It only takes a few minutes of stove usage to reach levels of nitrogen oxides that have been deemed unsafe by the EPA."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/your-gas-stove-is-leaking-methane-even-when-it-s-turned-off/ar-AATeRp9

Methane ...
     https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+much+methane+do+cows+produce

What is electricity produced from?
     https://www.statista.com/statistics/528603/distribution-electricity-net-generation-in-the-us-by-fuel-type/

Don't start me on msn, yahoo, and the other media ... nor on their scribes that disseminate information they don't understand.

[strangerthings]

I did a lot of research into new energy systems moons ago, and every inventor gets silenced or assassinated. Their inventions stolen. Patents "lost" only to show up in weapon departments.

We are also once in a great blue moon given tech. To the right people and it ends up in the wrong hands.

It isnt that we dont have these things! It isnt that we dont dream of these inventions !

If it isnt making #(&*#'l# a huge profit off the backs of others they will find a way to shut them out. Tesla is a fine example. There are many many others.

There arent too many people on the earth. There is enough food to feed everyone! There is enough land to live on!  This magnificient earth returns to us a wonderful variety of life.

The problem is .... getting this tech, and food, and clean water to the people without it getting confiscated, thwarted, hijacked, subdued and all the other choice words.

We have solutions! How do we get them into the world is the problem.