SoS software upgrade September 19

Started by Deb, September 19, 2021, 11:59:34 AM

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Deb

While the forum still functions the same way, some things have been moved: Login, Messages and Alerts  Profile settings, Notifications, your Posts, Topics, Drafts etc. will be on the left at the very top, in a handy dropdown that appears once you've logged in.

I suggest the first thing you do is look at your Notification settings, as they will have been reset to the default—no notification at all! Please take a look at all of the NEW options on the page, there are a few choices to make. Remember to save your changes.

You might also want to take a look at Look and Layout, there are a few new options such as Time Zone, Autosave Drafts, other Posting options. Remember to save your changes.

A few of the new built-in features of the new version, eliminating some of the outdated Mods/Apps we had. The site is now phone/hand-held friendly. You can now save drafts (7 days) for Personal Messages! There are a few new settings for Personal Messages; click My Messages in the top bar and then Setting.

There are probably some settings I've missed, and more new features I don't know about yet, so if you come across something interesting please share it here. I'll do the same.
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usmaak

This looks great.  Much more modern than the older version.  It also feels more responsive.  Nice job.

Bora137

Agreed, looks great on phone Deb, no more pulling the screen about to zoom in 👍

usmaak

Only thing I'm not seeing is the Recently Unread Topics link. I use that all the time.

Deb

Quote from: usmaak on September 19, 2021, 03:47:05 PMOnly thing I'm not seeing is the Recently Unread Topics link. I use that all the time.

I just want to clarify you don't mean "View the most recent posts on the forum" which is at the bottom of Forum Stats, near the bottom of the Home page.

I've never noticed a Recently Unread Topics link, but I can be a creature of habit and since I get notifications of everything anyway, I haven't needed something like that.

If it is something different from Recently Unread, let me know and I'll look for a setting I may have missed.

usmaak

Quote from: Deb on September 19, 2021, 06:40:36 PM
Quote from: usmaak on September 19, 2021, 03:47:05 PMOnly thing I'm not seeing is the Recently Unread Topics link. I use that all the time.

I just want to clarify you don't mean "View the most recent posts on the forum" which is at the bottom of Forum Stats, near the bottom of the Home page.

I've never noticed a Recently Unread Topics link, but I can be a creature of habit and since I get notifications of everything anyway, I haven't needed something like that.

If it is something different from Recently Unread, let me know and I'll look for a setting I may have missed.

I don't remember what it was called now (short memory) but the URL is: https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?action=unread

It would show all of the posts that I haven't read since the last time I visited.

Sena

Deb, I agree with usmaak. It would good to have a link to (https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?action=unread) on the front page, as we did before. Apart from that, the new forum looks very nice.

usmaak

I have a picture of it but I'm feeling too lazy to upload it to a separate website so that I can post it here.

The links I'm referring to said:

Show unread posts since last visit
Show new replies to your posts

LarryH

Quote from: usmaak on September 20, 2021, 06:34:43 AMThe links I'm referring to said:

Show unread posts since last visit
Show new replies to your posts
Both of those are below and to the right of the REPLY button. Hover over Unread Posts or Updated Topics, and you will see those descriptions.

Deb


strangerthings

Very nice Deb !

Still looking around.....

 :)
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Deb

Hey, I just noticed something cool. On the home page, you see the quote bubbles on the left side of the boards. Some are orange and blue, some are white. The orange and blue ones mean there are new posts, the white mean there are none. If you hover over them, you get the popups.  8)

BTW let me know if anyone is having problems with the partial quotes (Quote Selected Text) option not showing up. I've had it do that a couple of times, it could just be me.
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LarryH

I just found that if you first highlight the portion that you want to quote, the button for Quote Selected Text appears.

strangerthings

Quote from: LarryH on September 20, 2021, 07:02:15 PMI just found that if you first highlight the portion that you want to quote, the button for Quote Selected Text appears.

Hells bells thank you!!!!!

woohoo!

I read this and was able to quote selected text man thank you so much LOL

Deb

QuoteI just found that if you first highlight the portion that you want to quote, the button for Quote Selected Text appears.

It doesn't always immediately work for me, so peeps let me know if it also seems "sticky" to you too. Sometimes I have to refresh the page, sometimes I just have to try a couple of times before the Selected Text button appears.

I just notice something else that's terrific ( @Sena you'll like this): They've improved the Search function! Before, you had to be one the Home page to search the entire forum, and other pages just allowed you to search on the immediate page. No more! They've added a drop-down to each page, very top right, so you can choose to search the entire form, the topic you're in, the board the topic is in, or Members!
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Deb

Oh and one more thing for now. Most of you know you can add attachments to posts, such as images, .docs or pdfs, while in Preview mode. (Attachments and other options) Now you can drag and drop your image right into the attachment box! If your image attachment is larger that what's permitted, it will resize the image for you rather than just saying "no."

It will also give you the option to Insert your image right into the post.

If you have something larger to attach than the limit setting, such as an important .doc or pdf, let me know because if it's something reasonable I can override the setting.
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Deb

September 23, 2021, 05:10:56 PM #16 Last Edit: September 23, 2021, 05:14:52 PM by Deb
I just found something new yesterday! I was suddenly not getting emails for some posts, and while all this time I've been subscribed to all of the boards, the upgrade undid that because there is now a dropdown where you choose how to be notified (or not). The default setting is "No Alerts or Emails." There's also a dropdown to follow individual topics, although if you started the topic or reply to it (depending on your Notification settings), you will be automatically subscribed. I just spent about 5 minutes going through all the boards and changing the settings to "Receive Emails and Alerts." I'm going to suggest to Simple Machines that they add an option for Emails only.

I'll be starting a new topic here soon for bugs and suggestions.
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LarryH

What would be the difference between an email and an alert? How would they alert you if not via email? Text?

strangerthings

Quote from: LarryH on September 23, 2021, 08:20:32 PMWhat would be the difference between an email and an alert? How would they alert you if not via email? Text?

They alert you inside the forum. That is my option. I just log in and see whats what.

I do not even wanna know what Deb's inbox looks like LOL @Deb lmao
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Deb

September 24, 2021, 08:56:55 AM #19 Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 09:00:23 AM by Deb
Quote from: LarryH on September 23, 2021, 08:20:32 PMWhat would be the difference between an email and an alert? How would they alert you if not via email? Text?

You need to log in to see alerts, the same as Personal Messages. There's an Alerts link to the right of Messages in the top bar. You'd click on it to get a list of new posts, mentions, whatever you chose to be alerted to. Such as, you can now get alerts when someone quotes you or Likes your post. But only the built-in likes link, not the ones I added with the emogis (a third party app).

I prefer emails, but for some reason I'm getting both now, so will ask the coders what's up with that. You can opt for alerts rather than emails in your Notifications settings. I don't have any alerts checked in Notifications, and I'm still getting them.

Deb

September 24, 2021, 03:27:29 PM #20 Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 03:36:41 PM by Deb

Quote from: Tob on September 24, 2021, 11:33:10 AM(There is an issue with the 'quote' button. I am sure a replied to another thread)

@Tob, I'm finding there are a couple of problems with the quote button, but it has to do with the formatting of the quote, I don't think it would put your post in a different thread. I'm moving your post over to the "deaths of protest" thread. One thing I'm not thrilled with is that the thread Title only appears in the first post in the thread, which makes it less easy to know where you are when you're further down in the thread. I'll contact Support next, to ask about both issues.

Tob

Quote from: Deb on September 24, 2021, 03:27:29 PM
Quote from: Tob on September 24, 2021, 11:33:10 AM(There is an issue with the 'quote' button. I am sure a replied to another thread)

@Tob, I'm finding there are a couple of problems with the quote button, but it has to do with the formatting of the quote, I don't think it would put your post in a different thread. I'm moving your post over to the "deaths of protest" thread. One thing I'm not thrilled with is that the thread Title only appears in the first post in the thread, which makes it less easy to know where you are when you're further down in the thread. I'll contact Support next, to ask about both issues.


Thanks. Yes please shift it wherever you think it fits.
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Deb

Hey peeps, I've temporarily turned off the view YouTubes mod, the Smileys mod, and the Spoiler mod. I'm trying to get the Quote Selected Text function working properly, so am working with Simple Machines support today to figure out what's going on.
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strangerthings

Quote from: Deb on September 27, 2021, 10:47:15 AMHey peeps, I've temporarily turned off the view YouTubes mod, the Smileys mod, and the Spoiler mod. I'm trying to get the Quote Selected Text function working properly, so am working with Simple Machines support today to figure out what's going on.


What is it doing ?

I will try to recreate it on my mobile and desktop

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strangerthings

Quote from: Deb on September 21, 2021, 04:29:39 PM
QuoteI just found that if you first highlight the portion that you want to quote, the button for Quote Selected Text appears.

It doesn't always immediately work for me, so peeps let me know if it also seems "sticky" to you too. Sometimes I have to refresh the page, sometimes I just have to try a couple of times before the Selected Text button appears.

I just notice something else that's terrific ( @Sena you'll like this): They've improved the Search function! Before, you had to be one the Home page to search the entire forum, and other pages just allowed you to search on the immediate page. No more! They've added a drop-down to each page, very top right, so you can choose to search the entire form, the topic you're in, the board the topic is in, or Members!



Ok

On mobile rn it isnt working in brave browser at all

It doesnt take me to reply either after refreshing same thread even with a plain "quote" but it is quoting , i just have to scroll to reply box to see it.

Im going to try safari now.

strangerthings

Ok using normal quote in safari will take me to reply box with quoted text

BUT

when i select all in reply box and delete it and then refresh page.. same thing... the quoted text is there but zero scroll to it

The selected text button has yet to show in phone browsers

Ill try ipad and desktop next

strangerthings

September 28, 2021, 12:08:18 AM #26 Last Edit: September 28, 2021, 12:11:34 AM by strangerthings
Okkkkkk

Ipad same and no again to the magic not magic selected text button

However if I do a back page then go forward to where I was the quote button will take me to reply box lol

Deb

Sorry, I'm behind here. Been trying to figure out the quoting problem, which is: sometimes the Quote Selected Text button was not appearing. It is working better since I turned off the YouTube and Spoiler mods. We don't need the YT one since there's now a button in the text editor bar, so I'm hoping that's the mod that was the problem because I sure like using Spoilers.

The second problem with QST is that if you save your post as a Draft, the links in the quote (that contain the quoted person's name and a link back to the original post) get stripped out. Also, if you go into a post and use Modify instead of Quick Edit, the links in any quotes in the post get stripped out. Not a HUGE problem for us, but the SMF website does not have these problems so it's not a bug, it's something unique to SoS.  :(

The Lead Support Specialist at Simple Machines offered to take a look from the inside tomorrow, since he knows this software like the back of his hand. I know how busy these SMF support folks are, working and then helping SMF fans in their spare time, so I really appreciate his kindness and the offer. Keep your fingers crossed!

@strangerthings thanks for testing the site! Hopefully if this issue is fixed it will also fix the ones you were experiencing.
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Bora137

I was going to say all the emojis and ability to reply has gone then realised I wasn't logged in 😂

Thanks for all the effort Deb 🏆
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strangerthings

September 29, 2021, 12:31:26 AM #29 Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 12:35:31 AM by strangerthings
Quote from: strangerthings on September 27, 2021, 11:40:29 PMWhat is it doing ?

I scrolled up and looked (hand over face)
Quote from: Deb on September 28, 2021, 03:06:03 PMbecause I sure like using Spoilers.

teehee

Quote from: Bora137 on September 28, 2021, 03:53:11 PMI was going to say all the emojis and ability to reply has gone then realised I wasn't logged in

That is GREAT !!!! LOL Im not the only one who has done that! woohoo!

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In response to you two I was also testing my selected text quoting lol

Im not having the issue you are Deb.

Could it be a browser issue? Some option not selected?

Today I got so frustrated trying to watch a video and I tried all over the place and it wouldnt show anywhere! I was thinking it was a conspiracy LOL geeeeeeeeeeez I had cookies and scripts turned off! lmao I laughed and laughed at that one! (brave mobile browser lol) I turn it all off when I am not operating the internet and take long afk moments lol duuuhhhhhhh

strangerthings

September 29, 2021, 12:33:26 AM #30 Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 12:52:50 AM by strangerthings
My only issue I still have yet to figure out is how to stay on the same thread after I reply!!!!

I have checked and unchecked the options for it and nothing works! Not in firefox or brave. It always returns me to the list of topics!  :-X  :-X  :-X  :-X  :-*

I am wondering .... when I check or uncheck option  if I have to delete cookies and log back in ? Im gonna try that bc I havent!

strangerthings

September 29, 2021, 12:39:51 AM #31 Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 12:57:04 AM by strangerthings
Quote from: strangerthings on September 29, 2021, 12:33:26 AMI am wondering .... when I check or uncheck (post above) if I have to delete cookies and log back in ? Im gonna try that bc I havent!

test - not clear cookies - not working

clear cookies not working and I removed test post .....BUT I had an impulse to return to profile and looked at the options and "Return to topics after posting by default" is still unchecked then I returned to this thread and replied and it worked!

wth lol

(scritch noggin)

So for those of you where "Return to topics after posting by default" it is not working:
clear cookies, close browser, then open it again and log in to forum, return to profile where that option is, do not do anything, then return to thread you want to post on and boom bang bing.
Thats how it worked for me lol shrug


Clearing cookies and closing browser and coming back to log in and posting on a thread did not work! I had to return to profile???? I dont know what to tell you. lol

I got a little frustrated with it after update so I just checked the box cuz whatever. I figured I would give it a whirl today and that was how I got it to work.

And yes Deb, as Bora stated, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK!

I do know how much time is involved and the amount of coffee one could possibly drink while looking at code crosseyed. hahahaha


strangerthings

Quote from: Deb on September 24, 2021, 03:27:29 PMOne thing I'm not thrilled with is that the thread Title only appears in the first post in the thread,


I too miss this function as I often changed my title of reply because sometimes it will pertain to topic but in a sub category of same topic on a thread!

Maybe while this magnificent volunteer is here he or she can .... add that back in ? PRETTY PLEASE with sugar on top and hot fudge and pecans if you like?


strangerthings

Quote from: strangerthings on September 29, 2021, 12:39:51 AMSo for those of you where "Return to topics after posting by default" it is not working:
clear cookies, close browser, then open it again and log in to forum, return to profile where that option is, do not do anything, then return to thread you want to post on and boom bang bing.
Thats how it worked for me lol shrug


ummm ok it stopped working!!!

Is the token getting stripped? Something is getting stripped! A piece of code decided it didnt want to stick around.

In less than 10 posts/edits it quit working.......just letting you know. : ) : ) : )

Deb

September 29, 2021, 06:20:14 PM #34 Last Edit: September 30, 2021, 05:29:09 AM by Deb
Quotetopics
QuoteSo for those of you where "Return to topics after posting by default" it is not working:

It works for me, but the quoting thing is still an issue. As evidenced by the above quote. Tomorrow I'll try some other browsers. @mentions works for me (I think), although I don't always get a list of member names when creating one.

Quotehot fudge and pecans if you like

Yes, I'll put in a support request regarding getting topic titles back into the posts. If it's not an option, I can probably insert some code into a template or whatever. And where I come from (East Coast), it would take hot fudge and wet walnuts, lol.

QuoteIm not having the issue you are Deb.

So is no one else here is having a problem with the on-again-off-again Quote Selected Text button? Why do we suddenly have so many quotes that just say Quote, with no links back to the original post? That's new since the upgrade.

@Kindred, are we not the best RC testers (peanut gallery) ever? We all come from different perspectives. Certainly different realities.  ;)
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strangerthings

September 30, 2021, 04:05:21 AM #36 Last Edit: September 30, 2021, 04:07:09 AM by strangerthings
Three more missing items that are a must for me.

QUICK EDIT: The editor is gone! Why is it gone??!?!?

QUICK EDIT: Where did the preview go?!?!?! Why is it gone!?

IGNORE: Where did it go? lol I cant find it on their post or profile. I want to ignore a troll should I choose.

I really want to preview my edits. I have to post . save then view it then edit then  rinse repeat.
I also would really enjoy having the editor back! I do not always use the code because I like to highlight stuff and point and click because GUIs are awesome when you dont want to hand code.

Deb

September 30, 2021, 07:48:25 AM #37 Last Edit: September 30, 2021, 08:46:16 AM by Deb
Quote
Quote@mentions works for me

on your mobile???

Yes, I have an iPhone 11. @Mention works on it, I even get the list of names. What I DON'T have is Quote Selected Text, Save Draft and the Go Down button. (@Kindred )

Deb

September 30, 2021, 08:12:04 AM #38 Last Edit: September 30, 2021, 12:01:19 PM by Deb
QuoteQUICK EDIT: The editor is gone! Why is it gone??!?!?

QUICK EDIT: Where did the preview go?!?!?! Why is it gone!?

IGNORE: Where did it go? lol I cant find it on their post or profile. I want to ignore a troll should I choose.

What device/system/browser were you using?

BTW Quote Selected Text is working for me today, so far. But I've noticed I have to select from left to right. If I select from right to left (backwards) the button doesn't appear. Triple clicking to select still gives me the double quotes. :)

Editor: You should have "Quick Edit" once you have saved a post, or the "More" button should have Modify. If I use Modify it strips links out of quotes. Maybe it's a Mac thing.

Preview: You should have a Preview button between Save Draft and Post below the text box.

Ignore: Ignore and Buddy Lists are "on." Click on your profile box at the top left corner of the screen, and there should be an option for Buddies/Ignore List.

Let me know if these are still issues.

Deb

Anyone else here on Apple computers / phones?

strangerthings

September 30, 2021, 02:56:58 PM #40 Last Edit: September 30, 2021, 03:08:55 PM by strangerthings
@Deb

Did yall do something to fix mentions ?? Woohoo those r working now on my mobile! (Dance jig)

Thats so cool lol yayyyy


And after I'm done posting this I am going to do a quick edit and see if the editor is there but I was on my desktop editing a post and I had no editor or preview lol

Don't get me wrong here I have an editor and the preview only when I first originally make a post. The problem is when I want to edit the post I do not have an editor and I do not have the preview button.

On any device or my desktop


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Edited to check my errors:

Ok so problems generally are user error so let me just say I just saw a modify button under "more" after tapping quick edit and And I had an impulse to touch the button that says "more "and there was a modify option there that I hadn't noticed before ... and the editor is inside of the more !

😂

And I see the preview button

Hot damn

I didn't know I was supposed to click on modify I don't even know it was there before ! I could not tell you because I never noticed it lol

I'm going to try that again on my desktop give me a few minutes

I just thought that quick edit with me editing the post but no it literally means "quick edit "if you want to modify with an editor you have to click on more and then modify and I did not know that I'm not used to all these extra bells and whistle's

I just thought that quick edit was me editing the post but no it literally means "quick edit "if you want to modify with an editor you have to click on more and then modify and I did not know that I'm not used to all these extra bells and whistle's ;D

I feel a little dumb right now lmao

Deb

QuoteDid yall do something to fix mentions ?? Woohoo those r working now on my mobile! (Dance jig)

I haven't done anything, Kindred did say it turns out the partial quotes thing was really a bug and there was a fix on GitHub, and he offered to fix the forum for us. I don't know if he's done that yet, he's already spent a lot of time trying to get us up to speed, so if he hasn't done it yet he will when he can. The thing is, he @mentioned me in a post and now you did, and I am not getting emails when I'm mentioned. :o So we'll have to test that. I'll mosey over to GitHub when I'm done here, there may be other bugs they are working on.

You saw I answered a few of your questions above? https://speakingofseth.com/index.php/topic,2450.msg20316.html#msg20316

I mentioned the More/Modify button there. For me, Save Draft and Modify strip the links out of quoted test. That may also be taken care of by the bug fix. We'll see.

strangerthings

September 30, 2021, 05:26:15 PM #42 Last Edit: September 30, 2021, 05:34:33 PM by strangerthings
QuoteI mentioned the More/Modify button there. For me, Save Draft and Modify strip the links out of quoted test. That may also be taken care of by the bug fix. We'll see.


I did but I had no clue what you were talking about LOL
I kept saying ... what modify is she talking about ?
is she talking about quick edit? Well I do now

I think because the more button for me only showed "report to administrator" for me... I never saw modify
Even when you talked about the links being removed.... I had no idea what "modify" you were talking about
Im learning a new system - I am not seeing everything because I havent been posting like I used to probably.
I will eventually be intelligent again hahaha

Hooray to the support !!!
awesomeness!!!!

strangerthings


strangerthings

replying in the quick reply box this time to see if that helps lol
testing my return to topics

strangerthings

nope still not working
I cleared cookies and all my history and closed browser
logged in... posted here....and was returned to topics instead of staying in thread.

strangerthings

October 01, 2021, 06:09:51 PM #46 Last Edit: October 01, 2021, 06:11:25 PM by strangerthings
when i edited the above post I stayed in thread!!!

--- I am editing this to see if same thing happens.
when I originally posted this here post it sent me to topics. and the one above edited..... stayed in thread. I am wondering if this edit on this post will keep me in thread.

I honestly do not mean to be a pain
I am testing this out.

strangerthings

October 01, 2021, 06:12:01 PM #47 Last Edit: October 01, 2021, 06:13:45 PM by strangerthings
Well !

I stay in thread when I edit and I do not when I post original posts.

Hope this is helpful!

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Editing to add for testing purposes :

@Deb, @Kindred -- see my posts above much thanks :)

and this post is "modified" not a quick edit. Lets see if I stay or go lol

strangerthings

Quick reply

I stayed!

So I stay in thread with an edit, and return to topics after I post an original post!

Kindred

Update is completed....    not sure if it will affect your "stay in thread" issues, @strangerthings because I can't recreate the problem myself and haven't seen any other reports of that happening -- but the update should help some of the other things, including the quote bug.
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