Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

« If a man changes his attitude towards the things that happen  to him, over the course of time this will change the very nature of the things happening to him. »

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

« The death of your wife was the materialization, the dramatic representation of the scream of pain that permanently echoes within you.. states of being and events are the two faces of a single reality. » 

An unbearable sense of guilt was making me feel faint. A bottomless chasm opened up ready to engulf me. With all my remaining strength I was resisting this most simple and most unbearable of truths: that I alone was responsible for every event in my life, I was the sole cause of every suffering and misfortune.

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

«Fear, suffering and anxiety are not the effect but the true cause of all his troubles.»   
 
«This man suffers, not because he is facing an event which brings him pain and grief, rather he is facing this event because he has chosen suffering as his natural state»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

«Death is always suicide»

... but death is no solution! »

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[Deb]

OK this guy is totally Seth. Wow, your reading expanse is mind boggling. I did take a look at his book on Amazon, 400 or so pages. It will go on my Wish List. I still have loads of Seth to read first.

The first of two volumes of unpublished Seth sessions is now available in print. In German only. My next update newsletter for the Seth Research Project will be all about that. Visit the website to sign up for newsletters.

[inavalan]

If you're in a hurry jump to 10:37:

https://youtu.be/QEsv4yTxV_c?t=637

Listen in Italian and / or read English subtitles.

[inavalan]

https://archive.org/details/theschoolforgods/page/n1/mode/2up

[Deb]

When I truly learned this, and it really entered the core of my being, I vomited!

Yep a lot of people react really strongly to the idea that we are the cause of all of our successes AND and all of our failures. It takes a while for them to realize it's actually empowering. Some never do.

And yes, in German only. Long story. Sigh.

[inavalan]

"You always encounter the same events
because nothing changes in you!
Like attract like.
A particle of paradise moves towards paradise,
a particle of hell towards hell."

According to Lupelius' philosophy our states of Being attract the events that correspond to them, and events cause us to return to those same states. Only the will can stop this endless circle, this never-ending mechanical game, and break the hypnotic cycle in which man's existence is circumscribed. Thought is creative. Thought creates. Events are the materialization of our thoughts, of our states of Being. Therefore, states and events are the same thing. States are produced in the Being of every man, and events manifest themselves in his life, over time, and seem to originate independently of his will. In reality we are the ones who have intensely invoked them and unconsciously created them.

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

"... entire nations live in states of Being which attract corresponding events. For example, in the United States, it has taken tens, even hundreds of years for racial prejudice or the dislike of people who are different for reasons of creed or culture, to be recognized and to create the conditions for these prejudices to be overcome."

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"


I find this interesting to ponder on. On one hand, "prejudice" against those that are different attracted corresponding negative situations and events. On the other hand, the push to uniformly accept "progressive" views means also a "prejudice" against those that are different, doesn't it? This is what we're going through right now.

[inavalan]

"Thou shalt have no other gods before Me!...

... Thou shalt have no other God... meant that man, unaware of being the creator, makes the external world his god and elects it as lord of his Being and master of his destiny... That centuries-old warning handed down the first and greatest of all the commandments: do not depend on anything!...  Remember that you are the one who created all of this!...

Believing in a world outside ourselves means depending on it and being trapped by the laws of one's own projection."

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

"... the document ended with these forbidding words: "Food, sleep, sex, disease, old age and death are 'bad mental habits'. We must rid ourselves of them." 

In several places in his manuscript these words were also referred to as 'superstitions' or 'illusions.' "

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

This is a little long, three pages, but I think that it is worth the time:

• "I recalled the picture of Narcissus admiring his image in the pool moments before being swallowed up by it.
   
   «It is the symbolic story of a man lost and identified with the external world» explained the Dreamer, barely concealing His mirth at my vain attempts to change my facial expressions in response to His sudden change of topic and mood. He paused allowing me to catch up.
  
   «As long as you believe in an external world, as long as you trust that politicians have the power to govern your outer life and religions to put order in your inner one, you will be deeply disappointed. ...See the world as it is - a simultaneous creation of your inner being. According to your inner states and conditions, the world appears and disappears at will, and can become something alien and violent if you forget that you yourself are the very source of its existence. »
  
   «The myth of Narcissus is the metaphor of a man who becomes a victim of the world which is his own projection. Once you realize that the world you see is the projection of yourself, you are free of it» concluded the Dreamer.
  
   I was in a state of shock. How had it been possible for one of the most crucial myths of our civilization to be so scarcely understood for thousands of years? How on earth had it been possible to miss an explanation that was so simple?
  
   Alongside the Dreamer, I distinctly heard the voice of ancient times, of the classic age when most audacious ideas were forged, conceived by that race of gigantic thinkers, lofty philosophers who died out with Socrates. The resonance of their knowledge, which was eventually replaced by the consolatory invention of philosophy, still crosses the ages to reach us but we continue to neglect or misunderstand its warning myths. We do not want to know of their merciless message about the true condition of man and we still present Narcissus as the archetype of vanity, whereas instead his
  myth is a warning signal alerting us to the stupidity and danger of the conventional vision of the world. What the Dreamer had repeatedly tried to make me understand was finally penetrating a little deeper.
  
  The story of Narcissus was a message from a School of Overturning which had existed thousands of years before Caravaggio and which had inspired him to paint those pictures of the crucifixion of Peter and the conversion of Paul on the road to Damascus. Narcissus was not guilty of vanity, as often thought, but of identifying and falling victim to his own description of the world.
  
   «To fall in love with something outside of ourselves, forgetting ourselves, means becoming lost in the wanderings of a world of dependence... it means forgetting that one is the sole creator of his own personal reality...»
  
   «A world outside of ourselves does not exist – He stated again – All that we meet, see and touch is a reflection of ourselves. Other people, the events and circumstances in a man's life reveal his condition. »
  
   Blaming the world, complaining, justifying and hiding, are therefore the surest signs of dependency and the absence of a 'true' will.
  
   «This is not the only message which has come down to us across the ages which man has consistently misunderstood in order to escape its unbearable proposition»  said the Dreamer.
   
   «Like Adam, Narcissus also bit into the apple!» He said, catching me by surprise. It was difficult for me to keep pace with Him, when with a single step, He crossed the abyss of time and space between distant worlds, placing the four thousand year old story of Genesis alongside one of the most ancient classical Greek myths.
  
   «He too, like Adam, believed in otherness, in the existence of a world outside himself. »
  
   Narcissus drown, victim of his illusion that there was someone outside himself, and Adam was cast out of Eden and condemned to death for having bitten into the apple and for believing in the existence of an external world.
  
   However culturally distant they may have been, in both traditions the message was the same: to believe that the world is outside us means to become its victim, to be swallowed up by it.
  
   «The world is created by you, every second! – said the Dreamer – The pool in which Narcissus saw his reflection is the external world. Believing it to be real and relying on it means depending on one's own shadow... it means becoming smaller than the world we project. From creator, you become a creation, from dreamer you become dreamed, from master you become slave, until you are suffocated by your own creation.»
  
   It occurred to me that the message conveyed by these myths, as the Dreamer was helping me discover, could also be found intact in modern as well as ancient fables, from Frankenstein to Blade Runner, from the Gospels to Alice in Wonderland.
  
   «The fall of Adam and Eve from paradise happens every moment» concluded the Dreamer.
  
   «We are thrown out of Eden each time the description of the world takes hold of us... the moment we forget we are the creators.
  
  Then the creation rebels and rises up against us... This is the original sin, the unforgivable, mortal sin: mistaking the cause for the effect.
  
  A man that is whole and true... is such because he governs himself... And  in  spite of the apparent dynamism of events and the variety of situations he finds himself in, he knows that the world is his mirror. »
  
   «Whether good or bad, ugly or beautiful, right or wrong, everything a man encounters is just his reflection and not reality» said the Dreamer, and  from His tone I understood our meeting was approaching its end. He was about to leave me.
  
   «Everyone always and only reaps what he is... You are both the seed, and the harvest. This is why all the revolutions in history have failed... they tried to change the world from the outside... they believed the image in the pool to be real. Do not rely any more on the world for help.  Go beyond it! Only those who have gone beyond the world can improve it.»
   
  Here He stopped for a few moments.
  
   «Go beyond it!» He ordered, and then fell silent once more.
  
  Transcend the world, go beyond it! What could this mean?
   
   «For centuries man has scratched at the screen of the world, believing he could change the images of the film he himself had projected onto it.»
  
   The explanation for the failure of so many generations of men who had attempted to change the course of history was being handed to me on a silver platter. That bitterly comic vision summed up the infinite succession of atrocities, defeats and heroics, passing upon it just one judgement: that it had been a colossal and useless folly.
  
   «You... get out of this madness! – He ordered with unexpected kindness – Forget about wars, revolutions and economic, social, or political reform... concern yourself with the one who is truly responsible for everything that happens... Stop thinking about the dream and take care of the dreamer in you. The greatest revolution, the most difficult of all undertakings, yet the only one that has any sense, is changing one's self. »"
  
  --- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"
  

[LarryH]

"... the document ended with these forbidding words: "Food, sleep, sex, disease, old age and death are 'bad mental habits'. We must rid ourselves of them." 

In several places in his manuscript these words were also referred to as 'superstitions' or 'illusions.' "

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

I like most of what I am reading in this thread, but I do have a problem with the above quote. How are we all to rid ourselves of food and sleep? How does the species survive without food, sleep, or sex? How do we rid ourselves of the "mental bad habit" of death? Maybe, there's a missing context here, but the isolated quote seems absurd. If, on the other hand, the source is referring to gluttony when it comes to food or sloth when it comes to sleep or the belief that old age is accompanied by various forms of decline or that death is oblivion, then I can begin to relate to the quote.

[inavalan]

I'm reading this, as everything else I read, to intuitionally interpret it, beyond what the author says and tries to say. Others would probably get different interpretations, according to their personalities' current needs.

From my perspective, as we individually create / choose our realities according to our beliefs and inner states of being, I accept the idea that it is possible to create and experience a reality where food, sleep, sex wouldn't be needed, where disease, old age, death wouldn't be experienced.

This wouldn't require that everybody experienced the same conditions, in the case of an evolved enough personality, who overcame its conditioning, and discarded its limiting beliefs accordingly.

A somewhat less evolved personality, but still more evolved than I currently am, could also create and experience such a reality, if it were also mass experienced.

I've read only about a quarter of Elio d'Anna's book, and browsing ahead it seems that there is more talk about this subject (in the 3rd chapter), but I don't expect to discover a manual on how-to.

There might be such a manual symbolically embedded in the book, as there must be one in the Seth material, and there must be others in various myths and dogmas. It is up to each one to discover and use it when they reach the level at which they'll be able to handle it beneficially for them.

[inavalan]

"«The world is a chewing gum; it takes on the shape of  your teeth»

 «Do not forget that the world and the others are the most honest and sincere expression of what you really are... The world is such because you are such.»"

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

"... the five wounds of Jesus symbolised the five senses of the horizontal man which nail him to the lowest rung on the ladder of existence."

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

You may have heard of "Mens sana in corpore sano". Which is usually translated as "a healthy mind in a healthy body", and is usually interpreted to suggest that a healthy body helps to have a healthy mind.

Even the original text where it comes from doesn't actually say that:

• "You should pray for a healthy mind in a healthy body. Ask for a stout heart that has no fear of death, and deems length of days the least of Nature's gifts that can endure any kind of toil, that knows neither wrath nor desire and thinks the woes and hard labors of Hercules better than the loves and banquets and downy cushions of Sardanapalus. What I commend to you, you can give to yourself; For assuredly, the only road to a life of peace is virtue." — from Satire X by the Roman poet Juvenal
• orandum est ut sit mens sana in corpore sano. fortem posce animum mortis terrore carentem, qui spatium vitae extremum inter munera ponat naturae, qui ferre queat quoscumque labores, nesciat irasci, cupiat nihil et potiores Herculis aerumnas credat saevosque labores et venere et cenis et pluma Sardanapalli. monstro quod ipse tibi possis dare; semita certe tranquillae per virtutem patet unica vitae.

Interestingly, the google-translation from Latin seems less distorted than the literary one:

• we must pray for a healthy mind in a healthy body. ask for a strong mind, free from the terror of death, who places the last span of life among the gifts of nature, who can endure all kinds of labors, does not know how to be angry, desires nothing, and believes that the travails and cruel labors of Hercules are preferable, and loves both ashes and the feather of Sardanapalli. a monster that you yourself can give yourself; surely the path of peace through virtue is the only way of life.

It allows you to better use your intuition.

[inavalan]

This sounds quite good!


"«Style is consciousness... Invest everything you have... and even what you don't have, on yourself... always! You will see your life become richer and broader in every sense. If you bet on yourself, life will bet on you.

Don't worry about money. Worry about yourself, about your integrity. When money is needed, it will be right there. Trust yourself. Trust your dream and you will have all the money necessary to match a beautiful life. The masterpiece of your very dreaming is... you.

The outer world is only a pale shadow of your inner creativity, a very faded manifestation of your uniqueness.»"

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

"... an ancient story of obscure meaning: the parable of the dishonest administrator. ... enigmatic mystery that had enveloped it for two thousand years.

A rich man discovered that his farm bailiff was squandering his assets. He summoned him, and, having established the facts, dismissed him from his administrative responsibilities. "What will I do?" cried the desperate bailiff. "I'm no good at tilling soil, and I'm too embarrassed to beg." So he called his master's debtors one by one and falsified their documents, thereby reducing the debt.
One hundred barrels of oil became fifty, one hundred sheaves of grain became eighty, and so forth. In this way he counted on earning their good favour and finding a job once relieved of his office. His master also found out about this dishonest practice and in response... 'praised' him.

« Throughout the centuries, the behaviour of this master has puzzled the most learned Bible scholars, and challenged generations of theologians and sages»"

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"


This can be found in Luke 16, and its rich multi-layered symbolism was interpreted in many ways. I suggest you intuitively interpret it yourself before browsing the others' interpretations.

[inavalan]

"«To remove a problem or sickness from a man who is not ready, is like switching off his alarm system or removing the automatic braking system. If he is not ready, the consequences are unpredictable and He might find himself in a much worse condition than before. This is why a man cannot be helped from the outside.

Once a sickness or preoccupation of any kind is removed from him, he needs to immediately replace it with another, often more serious sickness or preoccupation, in order to reinstate the conditions that correspond to his Being, as though he were a perfect homeostatic machine.»"

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

"«Contrary to what a man thinks, fear comes first; and then we choose what to fear.»"

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

"«All healing is a release from fear. Once you are free from the real cause, the symptoms disappear too.»"

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[Bora137]

Amazing how many forms fear comes in though - need to control, need to please, rejection, lack, unknown, choice, loss, failure...

[inavalan]

Seth talked a lot about fear:

https://nowdictation.com/q/fear/

https://nowdictation.com/q/'fear+countering'~2+OR+'countering+fear'~2/

[inavalan]

"«Every man is the sole artificer of his assigned reality. The world is a large screen on which we project the ghosts of our life... Outside ourselves, there is no force, be it known or unknown, natural or supernatural, that can influence our destiny... Whatever the events of our life may be, they cannot manifest themselves without our consent... Do not believe that this world exists outside of yourself.

Try to realise that all that you believe to be coming from 'out there' starts instead in yourself and nowhere else. Your recognition of an inner cause responsible for all that happens outside yourself makes evil, suffering and death totally disappear from the earth.»"

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

«'Winning oneself ' means not allowing negative emotions to rule us and get the upper hand; it means winning over the destructiveness of our thoughts, the desire for self-sabotage and suicide. It means overcoming our limits, triumphing over every obstacle created out of doubt, fear and every other shadow in our Being»

«Winning oneself means not letting even the smallest expression of negativity to seep in, and never allowing even the slightest inner debasement or grimace of pain.»

«Winning oneself ' means not depending on the world. It means being creators, masters of oneself, of one's own states of Being, and therefore masters of the world.»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[Bora137]

It's such a different path to say Ram Dass - letting pain in letting it expand consciousness, becoming nobody. I think they must be reconcilable though because after all Ram Dass was/is full of joy even after his crippling stroke. So he mastered the self too.

[inavalan]

It's such a different path to say Ram Dass - letting pain in letting it expand consciousness, becoming nobody. I think they must be reconcilable though because after all Ram Dass was/is full of joy even after his crippling stroke. So he mastered the self too.

I believe that pain is a symptom that ultimately can be traced to a belief. To address the pain, that belief needs to be identified and changed. If the belief isn't identified, even if the current manifestation is somehow diminished or cured, it will either come back  or manifest under another form.

I don't know anything about Dass, but healing isn't about mastering the self. He may have thought that way, and that may have been a good enough reason for his stroke and pain. Everything that we experience has meaning, and it is meant to be interpreted, as deeply as we can, learn a lesson, and get guidance that we need to follow. If we miss any of these steps, we'll get that lesson again in the same or another form.

We all have different, incompatible beliefs that can't all be right, but eventually we'll all realize where we were wrong.

Looking back at Jane and Rob, and at all those people who attended Seth's sessions, while reading their questions to Seth, and sometimes their arguing with him, I can't not to remark the opportunity they wasted. Practically none of them made an obvious evolvement progress.

[Bora137]

Looking back at Jane and Rob, and at all those people who attended Seth's sessions, while reading their questions to Seth, and sometimes their arguing with him, I can't not to remark the opportunity they wasted. Practically none of them made an obvious evolvement progress.

Very few people do wake up and consciously apply effort to the path. It could be none of the people were actually awake. When Ra was asked how many people he hoped to help with its teachings Ra replied that if just one person used the information to polarise to positive and get to the next level of consciousness aka get off the earth karma wheel that would be enough - one person!

[steff74]

Very few people do wake up and consciously apply effort to the path. It could be none of the people were actually awake. When Ra was asked how many people he hoped to help with its teachings Ra replied that if just one person used the information to polarise to positive and get to the next level of consciousness aka get off the earth karma wheel that would be enough - one person!

I see this problem generally in internet communities with the topic 'Reality Creation'. There are many people telling their success stories at the Neville Goddard group at Reddit, but where's the prove that this stories are true at all? If you are interested in Neville like me, you maybe know Elmer O. Locker Jr. and his YouTube channel. He always talks about manifesting millions of dollars easily, just by imagining that you already have the money.

But I do not have the impression that Elmer (or any other of today's 'Law Of Assumption Influencers') manifested millions of dollars so far. If I'd have that much money, I'd rather make professional documentations while travelling around the world  - at least I'd make something 'bigger' than just sitting around in an office talking about Neville Goddard. I'd have my own record label or I'd be music/film producer. I'd probably have more and other things to share at Social Media than just my tips for manifesting things.   

The only real evidence you can have when working with Beliefs are the things you manifested in your life. But even then you still might search for a plausible 'logical' explanation of the things that happened. If I'd told you my manifestation stories, you'd either think I tell you fairy tales. Or I could tell you stories that are substantial for me, but might sound too trivial for you to prove anything regarding the Law Of Attraction/Assumption.     

Here we have a possible 'proof':



But even if you'd know that her story is true: could you permanently (!) believe in the power of your mind after watching this video? Or is your ego even more active telling you that this is total rubbish and brings you 'down to earth' again quickly?   

[Deb]

I'm looking forward to watching the YT. I have many personal examples that I, in retrospect, attribute to my own reality creation.

I can't say they are verifiable proof, how can they be from our perspective? But paths from desire/expectation to results can be seen as more than coincidence and wishful thinking. Supposedly random events lining up for a specific result?

It's not rubbish. Some may be. Not all of it.

[steff74]

I'm looking forward to watching the YT. I have many personal examples that I, in retrospect, attribute to my own reality creation.

It's not rubbish. Some may be. Not all of it.

That's correct, but how to separate the fairytales from the true stories? I tend to believe that the less 'sensational' success stories are often the true ones - but maybe that's just because of my own limiting beliefs. 

[inavalan]

«If you already knew that I'd given up, why... I said without being able to finish the question. A knot of tears shrank my throat.

 «It's the only way to make you understand that nothing can be given! A man has to pay for everything he receives.... and payment is always in advance.

 A man can only have what his vision holds, he can only possess what he's responsible for.»

«Nothing is external. An unprepared man, even if he's temporarily favoured by an event or external circumstances, can be driven back into his former poverty, if his new status exceeds his level of being.»

The richness, well-being and quality of a man's life - like that of a nation or an entire civilisation - does not depend on the availability and abundance of means and material resources, but on the breadth of his being. The way of feeling, thinking and acting, the height of aspirations and the depth of ideas; what he believes in and what he dreams, decides the destiny of men.

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

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I think that this is true, and it is quite important.

[steff74]

"... the document ended with these forbidding words: "Food, sleep, sex, disease, old age and death are 'bad mental habits'. We must rid ourselves of them."

My thoughts about reading the book ended at this point. Just another 'illuminated' tells us that sex is bad. This gibberish got rather boring over the centuries. We must rid ourselves of sex? Under this circumstances the author wouldn't even (re)incarnate.      

Avoiding food and sleep ... best ideas ever. If you avoid food you'll get sick and you'll starve to death. But then there's even two 'bad mental habits' we should avoid. What now?
 
See, that's the reason why I like Seth, Neville, Zeland: They don't live in an Ivory Tower, you can apply their advices in your life more or less easily. But you can apply them.   

[inavalan]

"... the document ended with these forbidding words: "Food, sleep, sex, disease, old age and death are 'bad mental habits'. We must rid ourselves of them."

My thoughts about reading the book ended at this point. Just another 'illuminated' tells us that sex is bad. This gibberish got rather boring over the centuries. We must rid ourselves of sex? Under this circumstances the author wouldn't even (re)incarnate.      

Avoiding food and sleep ... best ideas ever. If you avoid food you'll get sick and you'll starve to death. But then there's even two 'bad mental habits' we should avoid. What now?
 
See, that's the reason why I like Seth, Neville, Zeland: They don't live in an Ivory Tower, you can apply their advices in your life more or less easily. But you can apply them. 

Your reaction reminds of my reaction when I browsed my first yoga book.

In Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods", the Dreamer says that by design man is immortal, and shouldn't age, but man self-hypnotized himself in believing detrimental ideas, and hence creating a distorted version of reality. As long as man has thoe beliefs, he has to obey them (as Seth says too).

When I read or hear something, I look for the deepest interpretation I can have, and not for what the source meant, or intended.

I'm almost done reading this book, and I find it the closest to the Seth Material from  everything I read, in the way I interpret Seth, which is quite different from what most others believe Seth to say. Surely, I don't fully agree with everything that Elio d'Anna wrote, as I don't fully agree with what is written in the Seth books.

What I quote is what I find thought provoking. I believe that in matters of discovering the nature of reality, everybody should follow only their own inner source of knowledge and guidance, and no external one; no guru, teacher, science, religion, ...

EDIT: I never gave yoga a try. Maybe I should have. Again, not to follow it, but to get inspiration and pointers from it.

[inavalan]

«You're still trapped in what you believe you are. What you'll see in the meetings isn't what you truly are, but what you are not: the man whom you've believed yourself to be.

«I would say that the study of yourself, self-observation, is light. When the light comes, the shadows disappear and all that is true and real in you remains, and all that you are not or that you've believed yourself to be, vanishes»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

«I didn't say the others don't exist. I said the others don't exist outside you!... When this is clear to you, you'll know what the others are for»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

«On the road to flawlessness, in a responsible man's world, there's only space to conquer oneself: one's mediocrity, one's lie and one's identification with the world.»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

«All knowledge, methods and theories coming from the outside may be necessary as starting points, but must soon be abandoned for a higher source of understanding.

 It is time to disregard all teachings, ideologies, disciplines, books and ideas, any written words, and dive deeply within yourself to find your own truth and uniqueness; this alone will remove all your obstacles and leave you free from any hypnotism and in full mastery of all and everything.»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[inavalan]

«Don't feel discouraged if you are not yet successful in applying the Art of Dreaming. You, and I, as children of time, are still unable to understand the difference between dreaming and desiring.

In desiring, you may not realise that you are projecting into your life the experience of wanting, needing, wishing, trying and hoping, and that such an experience reveals 'in time'' the exact opposite of what you are desiring or expecting. Dreaming is such a powerful, creative experience that even few seconds of its 'timeless' action will succeed in creating all that you have desired for years and failed to achieve!
Remember! Only dreams can come true..... desires, never.»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

[Mik]

«

In desiring, you may not realise that you are projecting into your life the experience of wanting, needing, wishing, trying and hoping, and that such an experience reveals 'in time'' the exact opposite of what you are desiring or expecting.»

--- Elio d'Anna's "The School for Gods"

I have not read the book, but, I do know if you tell yourself you want something, or you desire something: then you are telling yourself you do not have it now in this moment. One way is to change your belief structure (and encourage these things to come into your life), while awake, so that you can change your world, your reality, - is:  to believe it IS true NOW, already.

The way to do that, is to 'program your awareness filters'.  --- Do a search on "awareness filters" in here: you will find my fairly thorough explanation.

There has also been much writing on 'programming awareness filters' by various motivational speakers.

(Joy and) Happiness,
         Mik.

[inavalan]

Your "to believe it IS true NOW, already." tells me enough about how you see this. No need to search for explanation, as I disagree.

In my understanding, Seth says that you shouldn't lie to yourself.

What prevents your wish fulfilling are your doubt and fear that your wish won't happen. They are caused by your beliefs.

[Mik]

Read about programming your awareness filters. It works, you can do it while you're awake, it is extremely effective. I've trained many people how to do it; for both employees and people that I'm mentoring. And it has changed lives. I've done it often. It works.

Where does Seth say how to CHANGE what you believe?

What techniques do you recommend to actually change what you believe?


As always . . .
  (Joy and) Happiness,
           Mik.
   

[inavalan]

https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?action=search2;params=eJwtzjFuwzAQRNG7pEnzC5FcLqXTCDK5iBMookErCQLo8KYMA1vMvGZ2Kb_Llq0c78dwvB2XdqaIJ-AUJTHhPE5wiaCEhJ8II0GQAXGIRwISEUUSMpIGYj9PFKISE3FCB9ShAR37zv1a_-Zcv2-r7dYXT_q5fFne57qt_y-pbe-p2WrPJ180l8_Wudg9n2JLy9feb61uH1YeMF8_3Q..

Look up "pronged"

[Mik]

Thank you for the suggestion but I know what pronged means.

Below is what I said elsewhere. If you're a visual yourself - self affirmations will also appear as visuals to you as you state them. If you are a kinesthetic then you will feel it in your body. If you are more emotion centered you'll feel the emotion.

As a matter of fact when you begin, the less comfortable you are telling yourself those things then the more you need to do it.

You neglected to offer your own suggestion.

The following works for everybody. True if you're visual, sure, then actively create images that say the same positive currently true message, Etc. But correct form naturally occurs for each type individual. Just doing it works. Give it a serious try for 3 months and see how you change.

Also does Seth say to State it as though it were currently true. To avoid any form of phrasiology that implies that it is not currently true now. Or, To watch your thoughts and counteract counterproductive ones as often as possible? To write them out daily on a regular basis to actively do this?

And you failed to offer your own suggestion.

And I am not Seth: never expect me to be Seth: I will make statements that vary from Seth because I got them from another source. Seth often backed up and explained things or corrected people's understanding of what he said. Seth was not perfect. Neither am I.

Now that you've read what I have to say in completeness, (I assume that you have) then seriously, please, answer the following: am I saying "Lie To Yourself".

In case you didn't look it up, or to save others from having to do it, here's what I said elsewhere.

In the 1980s, from two sources, I was exposed to the idea of awareness filters and how to program them.

What are awareness filters? Our awareness filters are what we have pre-programmed ourselves to pay attention to (and not pay attention to).

Example: if you were to drive down the road and you paid attention to the leaves fluttering on the trees, the toys in the neighbor's yard, the birds flying in the air, the neighbors opened front door - in other words if you paid attention to everything, then, you couldn't drive the car a half-block before you wrecked your car.

You have programmed yourself to pay attention to the important things: Kids running toward the street, signs, balls rolling, Cars moving in driveways, etc..

If we did not have awareness filters we would suffer extreme information overload. (I know a young person with Autism that appears to have information overload.)

If you have programmed your awareness filters with the belief that people think badly of you - your awareness filters will let that information come through and block the information where people say nice things about you, when people honor you, etc.. A self-fulfilling perspective that is skewed to your disadvantage.

If you're an entrepreneur and you've programmed your awareness filters such that 'you see opportunities everywhere', then you will. And people will be amazed at your brilliance. But they could program that same belief into their own awareness filters and they would see opportunities everywhere.

If you have programmed your awareness filters such that you live in a terrible world - you will. And if you have programmed your filters so that you have wonderful things happening in your life - you will.

There are very specific techniques to appropriately and most effectively program your awareness filters. It begins with your self-talk and with specific statements to program your filters - self affirmations.

I'll explain techniques later.

(Joy and) Happiness,
     Mik

 CONTINUED:

Programming awareness filters with self-affirmations
     - - - -

Self-affirmations can be used to change your awareness filters, beliefs, your behavior, your view of what the world is around you, the actual world around you, your level of happiness and feelings of safety. Because our beliefs, especially our awareness filters, define Who We Are, and, the world around us - this is where you begin to do it.

It's important to know how to formulate appropriate effective self-affimations.
    A. They must be in the present tense as though they were already true and currently true.
    B. Avoid any verbiage in the negative or that implies that you don't already have this ability or quality.
    C. Never use any phraseology about "What You Won't Do" or "can't do" or "will not do". Such as: 'I don't cheat on my diet'. Your brain does not hear the negative "don't". So you've just programmed in "I cheat on my diet"

An example: I'm going to ask you to do something mentally and I'm going to ask you to follow through as best you can:

 'Do not think of a pink elephant.

How well did you do? The imagery created by "Pink elephant" overrides the idea of "do not". Thus, you can not successfully program using that type of approach.

Instead phrase the same affirmation: ' I eat a healthy diet.' (Stated as currently true and in the positive).

'My world is safe.'
'I am kind.'
'Good things constantly happen to me.'
'I am a non-smoker.'
'All people are kind to me.'
'My body is healthy and fit.'
'Daily I increase my psychic abilities.' (This one is a little tricky - by using the word 'increase' it is assumed the skill is already there based on the wording. )

Here's the wrong way to say the same thing.
   'I will become psychic.'
The 'I will' says that it's not currently true - and that violates the 'currently true' requirement. Following is the very best way to say it.

'I am actively psychic.'

The shorter the affirmation the better.

'I am' is a powerful precursor to the state of being you desire to be.

Sometimes it's best to approach things from more than one direction with multiple self affirmations. For example:

'I am healthy and fit.'
'I exercise daily and eat a good diet.'
'I believe in myself.'

Select 6 to 10 of your most important affirmations. Write your currently most important affirmations down everyday multiple times. Do so until it sinks in, or for 30 days max, and then move on to an adjusted set of affirmations. Use 'correctly formed affirmations' in the part B, that is below.

That was part A.

Part B:

The next has to do with self-talk. Everyone says things to themselves all day long. Every time you catch yourself saying something negative about yourself, your world, or your life, then override it with three to five positively formed affirmations that directly counteract it.

'I am lazy.' When you catch yourself saying that - then follow with:
 'I am energetic and productive.'
 'I am energetic and productive.'
 'I am energetic and productive.'
 'I accomplish my highest payoff task.'
 ''I accomplish my highest payoff task."
 
And if you have time then do a few more. The more the better.

The more diligent you are at counteracting negative thought the faster your life will change in the direction your self-affirmations are driving it.

Add these techniques with the knowledge that 'You create the "reality" around you' - together they are extremely powerful.

Since I've learned these techniques I have lived something of a Charmed Life: the process helped me figure out how to go back to, and pay for, college (4.0); start successful businesses; raise wonderful children; improve my effectiveness; improved resilience; enjoy excess finances; help many people in a wide variety of ways; abandon all concerns of what people thought of me; etc..

You can too.

(Joy and) Happiness,
      Mik.

P.S. Yes, ' (Joy and) Happiness '  - is a positive affirmation for me, and hopefully a gift to you; so you will think of that in the present and current tense (an affirmation for you). When I type that I often think "I am", "I have", or "for you". I put that on every personal email and letter, and, a few business documents. For 34 years I have experienced happiness for some portion of every day - thanks to self-affirmations . . .   "J&H,".

(J &) H,
  Mik.

[inavalan]

Your reply makes no sense to me.

You asked me:

Where does Seth say how to CHANGE what you believe?
What techniques do you recommend to actually change what you believe?

And I pointed you to the search that gives you the answer. Then, instead of simply say "thank you", you went off on a tangent ...

This is the second time you directly asked me for help finding an answer, then started to argue with yourself.

These kind of exchanges are unpleasant, unhelpful, so I'll just ignore you for now.

[Mik]

You miss interpreted me, AGAIN. I didn't ask for help this time, I was challenging you this time.

So please answer the questions that I asked.

What do you personally offer as a way to change your beliefs? And I mean separate to quoting Seth. I mean your answer.

How is Seth answer better than mine? 
How does it differ? Does mine have anything to offer that Seth doesn't? Does Seth have anything mine doesn't (he may)?

Was Seth thorough in his explanation of how to change your beliefs? (And I do believe he recommended affirmations.)

Now that you've read my complete answer, do you still believe I am  'Lying to myself" as you put it.

I have discussed many questions and offered many ideas and you seem to only select small pieces and make fun of me. May I ask why? And yes that's the fifth question I would like you to answer. (5)

This time I offer: please actually answer all the questions this time, thoroughly, in your OWN words. Thank you.

However, let's bring the tone down; and as always,
  (Joy and) Happiness,
      Mik.