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Poll
Question: About flying dreams
Option 1: I have flying dreams frequently votes: 2
Option 2: I have flying dreams rarely votes: 4
Option 3: I have never had a flying dream votes: 0
Title: Flying dreams
Post by: Sena on July 26, 2020, 02:07:35 AM
I may have had flying dreams as a child, but I have no clear recollection. I had a flying dream last night. At first I was flying effortlessly, but then I started experiencing the fear of falling and woke up.

This is Seth on flying dreams:

"It is very difficult to admit that you are in many ways more effective and creative in the sleep state than the waking state, and somewhat shattering to admit that the dream body can indeed fly, defying both time and space. It is much easier to pretend that all such experiences are symbolic and not literal, to evolve complicated psychological theories, for example, to explain flying dreams. The simple fact is that when you dream you are flying, you often are. In the dream state you operate under the same conditions, more or less, that are native to a consciousness not focused in physical reality. Many of your experiences, therefore, are precisely those you may meet after death. You may speak with dead friends or relatives, revisit the past, greet old classmates, walk down streets that existed fifty years earlier in physical time, travel through space without taking any physical time to do so, be met by guides, be instructed, teach others, perform meaningful work, solve problems, hallucinate." (from "Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul (A Seth Book)" by Jane Roberts)

From the Kindle edition: https://amzn.eu/0pwz9pq

"There are root dreams that represent basic inner experiences. Initially no images are involved. If you remember the dreams, you remember them with images however. Flying dreams are an example here. They are not symbolic of anything, basically speaking. They represent direct experience."
—TES7 Session 286 September 14, 1966

I wonder how common flying dreams are, so I shall post a poll.
Title: Re: Flying dreams
Post by: jbseth on July 26, 2020, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: Sena (https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?msg=16326#msg16326)
I had a flying dream last night.

Hi Sena,

I suspect that I had some flying dreams as a child, but unfortunately I don't recall any with any certainty. As an adult, I've definitely had some flying dreams, had maybe 8 or 10 or so in the last 40 years.

I'm not sure why, but I seem to have a better recall of my flying dreams, than any other. Perhaps because they have been very impactful.

I have noticed that in these flying dreams, whenever I'm flying, (and not worrying about falling) I'm usually extremely joyful, happy and excited. It's an awesome feeling. I sometimes wonder if the whole point of having the experience of "flying" is just really a symbolic representation of this awesome feeling of extreme joy.

In your dream last night, before you started to experience the fear of falling, do you remember how you felt when you were flying?

-jbseth





Title: Re: Flying dreams
Post by: Deb on July 26, 2020, 10:32:51 AM
I used to have flying dreams a lot, not as much any more, but mine were not effortless. I'd have to "work" at getting off the ground and staying aloft, more like swimming through the air. The weird thing is that when dreaming I just take it for granted that I can fly and never question it. It's just another mode of transportation. I don't recall flying very high either, maybe about 5' off the ground, so never worried about falling.

I used to dream about being in elevators a lot too, I wonder if that's related? Years ago I worked in a high rise office building, on the 47th floor, so did spend a lot of time on elevators at one point in my life, but the dreams don't feel related to that.

Another repetitive dream I've had all my life is needing to make a phone call and having a problem either with phones or having a hard time finding a phone. Back in the "old" days it would be a problem dialing a number correctly, but my dream phone equipment updates with the technology of the time. Now I dream about having problems with my iPhone, usually that some sort of malware has hijacked my phone and I can't get to the phone screen.

I think a dream interpreter would have a lot of fun analyzing my dreams.
Title: Re: Flying dreams
Post by: Sena on July 26, 2020, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: jbseth (https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?msg=16328#msg16328)
I sometimes wonder if the whole point of having the experience of "flying" is just really a symbolic representation of this awesome feeling of extreme joy.
jbseth, thanks for sharing your experience. I think what Seth is saying is that a flying dream is NOT symbolic of anything. How I understand it is that flying is a the natural experience on the inner self when it is freed from the confines of the physical body,
Title: Re: Flying dreams
Post by: jbseth on July 26, 2020, 03:00:36 PM
Hi Sena, Hi Deb,

In your flying dream(s), do you recall how you felt in the dream when you were flying?

-jbseth
Title: Re: Flying dreams
Post by: Sena on July 27, 2020, 01:55:30 AM
Quote from: jbseth (https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?msg=16334#msg16334)
Hi Sena, Hi Deb,

In your flying dream(s), do you recall how you felt in the dream when you were flying?

-jbseth

jbseth, I felt fine until I started doubting my being able to fly.
Title: Re: Flying dreams
Post by: Deb on July 27, 2020, 10:04:53 AM
I don't remember feeling any type of emotion when flying in dreams (such as freedom, joy or fear), it seemed just as natural as walking or running. But for some reason I felt the need to fly, despite that it required more effort than walking.