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Title: Building with sound
Post by: Deb on April 06, 2018, 06:42:42 PM
Seth had a lot to say about sound. Inner sound, building the pyramids, inaudible sound, healing sound... For this topic I'm just going to focus on building with sound and how science is making some progress in using sound to levitate and move things.

I'm using a few spoiler boxes here because this is a long post and I didn't want anyone to get overwhelmed or lost. The quotes are from the Seth search engine, the [...] indicate missing paragraphs. If I come across anything important that has been left out, I'll edit this. Otherwise I may never get this posted... I've been working on this for a week and keep turning up new information. I have to stop for a bit. :)

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We know sound affects matter. It makes our ear drums vibrate, you've probably watched speakers vibrate, even travel a bit from a deep throbbing base, tuning forks resonate with one another. A loud enough voice can break fine crystal (http://www.physlink.com/Education/askexperts/ae232.cfm). And check out these fantastic short
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. Sound can levitate small objects and move them around:

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Scientists have been able to levitate small objects and are beginning to levitate larger ones. From
"Levitating fish and insects using sound" (https://www.nature.com/news/2006/061127/full/news061127-6.html):

"Acoustic levitation is less exotic. It uses the air pressure of ultrasound waves (sound with frequencies higher than the range of human hearing) to keep an object aloft. The effect has been recognized in theory since at least the 1930s, and Xie and his colleague Bing-Bo Wei have previously used it to levitate very dense balls of tungsten."

"I'm not surprised there was no harm," says Peter Christianen, who works on magnetic levitation at the Nijmegen lab where a frog was levitated. "The forces of gravity are very small" — so negating them doesn't require much of a counterthrust, he says."

A more in-depth scientific explanation can be found in this article (http://www.pnas.org/content/110/31/12549):

"Matter can now be manipulated at atmospheric conditions by counteracting the effect of the gravitational force, without requiring a microgravity environment to remove its presence,"

Levitating a larger sphere (https://phys.org/news/2016-08-acoustic-levitation-large-sphere.html):

"When placed in an acoustic field, small objects experience a net force that can be used to levitate the objects in air. In a new study, researchers have experimentally demonstrated the acoustic levitation of a 50-mm (2-inch) solid polystyrene sphere using ultrasound—acoustic waves that are above the frequency of human hearing."

Here's an old mystery, I'm not saying what's real or not, The Coral Castle near Miami, Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle):

"The structure comprises numerous megalithic stones, mostly limestone formed from coral, each weighing several tons.[2] It is currently a privately operated tourist attraction. Coral Castle is noted for legends surrounding its creation that claim it was built single-handedly by Leedskalnin using reverse magnetism or supernatural abilities to move and carve numerous stones weighing many tons."

"Edward spent more than 28 years building Coral Castle, refusing to allow anyone to view him while he worked. A few teenagers claimed to have witnessed his work, reporting that he had caused the blocks of coral to move like hydrogen balloons. The only tool that Leedskalnin spoke of using was a "perpetual motion holder".

A fantastical article Acoustic Levitation of Stones (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/ciencia_antigravityworldgrid08.htm), complete with diagrams and mathematical theory:

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Finally, at least for now, here's an article about ancient cultures being able to "soften stone," building, for instance, the stone walls of Cuzco, Peru. (https://ancient-code.com/ancient-technology-ancient-cultures-soften-stone/) I've seen them, touched them, you cannot get a finger nail between them. I'm adding photos to show how creative their cuts were, it's crazy.

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So, all food for thought. There is a pretty popular Youtube "demonstrating" melting stones with sound that keeps coming up.
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. I haven't watched the whole thing minute by minute, but I did go to this guy's (Сергей Балденковz) web site and found an entire page (http://infrafon.ru/lind.html) devoted to how the Coral Castle and other structures were built. It's in Russian, you'll need to use Google translate unless you can read Russian. He's not a scientist, but really likes to experiment and seems to know enough.

"So did the ancient softened and cut stones, only they used the sound of their voice for this. But besides that, there was the possibility of levitation stones. Vibrations of the voice of 100 people spread across the stone platform, the stone boulder resonated and it was only necessary to give a small push: a blow on the stone with a staff, a stick or a high tone of voice. Likewise, Lidskalninsh yelled at the stones."

"In general, you realized that sound causes vibration or as John Keeley said sympathy.
Sympathy, well, or response, a resonance, from a rock or a stone, was caused by ancient songs and dances by its people. If the Indians did this directly, due to the harshest discipline, and therefore the cohesion of action, then the Egyptians, and later the Greeks, did it in a trickier, simpler and more technological way."

I cold go on forever. Lots of theories that sound similar to what Seth said! Not quite a thesis, but it sure felt that way. This was fun!

Title: Healing with sound
Post by: Deb on April 07, 2018, 01:28:38 PM
Just had to throw this in, an article supporting Seth's comment from my previous post:

"You know that sound has an effect upon living things. It can help mend bone. It can also be used however to reinforce structures."
—TPS2 Session 605 January 17, 1972

From the NY Daily News Archives (http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/sound-waves-heal-broken-bones-docs-article-1.836975):

"IT MAY NOT be music to your ears, but some sound waves can help broken bones heal, especially those that are difficult to mend. While the bones can feel the sound, you can't hear it because it's ultrasound waves, beyond the hearing range of people, that doctors are using. Doctors at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan have found that giving broken bones a regular blast of low-intensity ultrasound from a small portable device speeds up the healing process."

Oh heck, one more (https://www.popsci.com/sound-waves-accelerate-healing):

"Application of ultrasound has been shown to speed broken bone regeneration by one third, and even restore memory to mice with Alzheimer's. Now researchers have found that ultrasound can accelerate healing time of skin wounds too."


Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: Bora137 on April 23, 2022, 03:54:02 PM
Thanks for the massive post Deb 🙂. I was looking for exactly this topic. I think the power of certain sounds is really important. Seth says the luminarians skipped the the chemical propulsion of vehicles and went straight to sound.

"Sound was utilized far more effectively, not only for healing and in wars, but also to power vehicles of locomotion, and to bring about the movement of physical matter. Sound was a conveyor of weight and mass."
—SS Part Two: Chapter 15: Session 562, December 7, 1970

This quote from Ra does not contradict Seth it just tells us more about what is happening. Specifically, the stone is conscious (on a basic level) and the sound is basically asking the stone to produce the required shape or move to a specific location.


" Much as your mind/body/spirit complex dwells within a hierarchy of vehicles and retains, therefore, the shell or shape or field, and the intelligence of each ascendingly intelligent or balanced body, so does each atom of such a material as rock.

When one can speak to that intelligence, the finite energy of the physical, or chemical rock/body is put into contact with that infinite power which is resident in the more well-tuned bodies, be they human or rock.

With this connection made, a request may be given.

The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rock-ness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity".

So the sound asks the question of the group consciousness within the rock that each atom is a part of please split here. The atoms comply and change the group physical form in the way requested.

I think this technology is only possible if society adopts the belief that everything has consciousness and that consciousness has primacy over matter. I read somewhere that the sound or request was focused through some tool in ancient Egypt or really before ancient Egypt. I will add that source if I can find it.

Sorry if any of the above is covered in your original post Deb. I read a lot of it but no all.
Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: Deb on April 24, 2022, 10:20:36 AM
Funny how some of these old topics are resurfacing. Yep, sound is interesting. The first time I came across the concept of building with sound was before I'd found Seth, in the book The Scole Experiment. They were communicating with some disincarnate intelligence(s) thru a medium, and one of them talked about the Egyptians using sound to build the pyramids.

I know the sound can have a spiritual/physical effect on me, such as drums, singing bowls or even music.
Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: inavalan on April 24, 2022, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: Deb on April 24, 2022, 10:20:36 AMFunny how some of these old topics are resurfacing. Yep, sound is interesting. The first time I came across the concept of building with sound was before I'd found Seth, in the book The Scole Experiment. They were communicating with some disincarnate intelligence(s) thru a medium, and one of them talked about the Egyptians using sound to build the pyramids.

I know the sound can have a spiritual/physical effect on me, such as drums, singing bowls or even music.

My hypothesis about this is that the sound wasn't used as much to levitate things, but as a method of focusing intention by inducing altered states of consciousness. In altered states there are other root assumptions.

"Seth maintains that the dream universe has its own basic laws or "root assumptions" — mental equivalents to our laws of gravity, space and time. In other worlds, dream reality only seems discordant or meaningless because we judge it according to physical laws rather than by the rules that apply within it."
—SDPC Preface

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EDIT: this search yields some interesting results:

Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: strangerthings on May 03, 2022, 11:37:53 PM
Fyi
The tuning fork demos video went private. At least I was able to see it when you first posted.

I came back to watch it again but alas it is gone.

Also I suppose when we begin to levitate or make appear or reveal passageways using inner sound we no longer have to hypothesize.

All thoughts have sound.
The word itself  (sound) is past tense of a present condition - btw.  So is the word - word.
Lol

(Edited to correct typos and clear up a sentence that looked odd)
Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: Deb on May 08, 2022, 11:21:10 AM
Thanks for the heads up, I'll see if I can find it elsewhere.

I wonder how many scientists are looking at the power of sound. Another thing I should look into.
Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: strangerthings on May 08, 2022, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: Deb on May 08, 2022, 11:21:10 AMThanks for the heads up, I'll see if I can find it elsewhere.

I wonder how many scientists are looking at the power of sound. Another thing I should look into.

I found myself curious the video went private .... after all this time.

Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: inavalan on October 21, 2022, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Bora137 on April 23, 2022, 03:54:02 PM...
This quote from Ra does not contradict Seth it just tells us more about what is happening. Specifically, the stone is conscious (on a basic level) and the sound is basically asking the stone to produce the required shape or move to a specific location.

" ... When one can speak to that intelligence, the finite energy of the physical, or chemical rock/body is put into contact with that infinite power which is resident in the more well-tuned bodies, be they human or rock.

With this connection made, a request may be given.

The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rock-ness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity". ...
Thanks! This seems a quite possible way to manipulate matter.
Title: Re: Building with sound
Post by: inavalan on October 21, 2022, 10:38:20 PM
Quote from: Deb on May 08, 2022, 11:21:10 AM...
I wonder how many scientists are looking at the power of sound. Another thing I should look into.

Over the last few years I've lost most of my respect to "scientists". Even if wrong, some of them are decent, others aren't.

I just saw this caricature earlier today. I thought it good. Then I realized that I can't send it to some of my closest people.

(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff570c1fc-b22f-4c71-ad82-a11dc0fed33f_1046x764.png)

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EDIT: From my more recently acquired different perspective (different beliefs) I realized that "scientists" haven't just become less trustworthy, or more irresponsible, but it is just that I had no idea. Some people knew about it, and documented it for very long time. That's how things are in my current probable reality. :)

Quote'I Have the Utmost Respect for Scientists', Obama