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Title: NDE: Near Death Experience
Post by: Deb on June 19, 2019, 04:23:28 PM
Found this article (https://gazette.com/health/near-death-experiences-at-heart-of-jeff-olsen-s-memoir/article_d3430ba4-8fa1-5417-a741-2251b04b69d1.html) about a man, Jeff Olsen, who was horribly injured in a rollover crash in 1997. His wife and baby son died in the crash, his other son survived. He had a few NDEs before he finally regained his health six months later.

His story sounds very similar to others I've read, but what impressed me is that he is LESS religious because his experience:

Before the accident, Olsen considered himself a religious man and identified as a Mormon. He believed in a judgmental God and an afterlife in hell if he didn't make the right choices. His beliefs were turned upside down.

"My experience of being in that place and in the presence of God, if you will, the unconditional love I felt was overwhelming," he said. "That everything was in perfect order and everything in my life was exactly what was meant to be. Even things I judged as mistakes, I felt nothing but love, like look how we supported your choices, look how you're here to learn."

Post-accident he still calls himself a Mormon, though is quick to say he isn't interested in religion. "In general, it's segregating," he said. "It doesn't unify us. It pulls us apart."


Impressive.

BTW he has a few 5 star books on Amazon (https://smile.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B00CPTK01S?_encoding=UTF8&node=283155&offset=0&pageSize=12&searchAlias=stripbooks&sort=author-pages-popularity-rank&page=1&langFilter=default#formatSelectorHeader).

Title: Re: NDE: Near Death Experience
Post by: jbseth on June 20, 2019, 11:50:06 AM
Hi Deb,

Thanks for sharing this. I love NDE stories.

There are now very many NDE stories and generally speaking, while many of these have some similar features, (OOBE's, travel through dark tunnel, seeing a being of light, visits with dead family members) they also all seem to be different from each other.

This makes me think that what Seth has to say about death and dying in "Seth Speaks" has some real validity to it.

-jbseth

 
Title: Re: NDE: Near Death Experience
Post by: LarryH on June 20, 2019, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: Deb (https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?msg=12864#msg12864)
but what impressed me is that he is LESS religious because his experience
This is consistent with what I have read and heard. Many people who subscribe to a religion before an NDE feel less tied to religious dogma afterwards, but do feel more spiritual, less afraid of dying, more trusting of a benevolent universe and a greater understanding of their purpose. These characteristics are shared by atheist and agnostic experiencers as well.