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#41
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by inavalan - January 18, 2024, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Mik on January 18, 2024, 08:11:46 PMI forgot to mention: by seeing yourself as currently slimmer, you assist what 'you' believe to be the truth, and thereby assist yourself to lose weight.

We each create our OWN reality with what we believe and what we think. I believe in Seth terms that is "The Most Basic Truth".

(Joy and) Happiness,
    Mik

You seem to not understand what I mean, and probably I don't understand what you mean, so I'll stop here.
#42
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by Mik - January 18, 2024, 08:11:46 PM


I forgot to mention: by seeing yourself as currently slimmer, you assist what 'you' believe to be the truth, and thereby assist yourself to lose weight.

We each create our OWN reality with what we believe and what we think. I believe in Seth terms that is "The Most Basic Truth".

(Joy and) Happiness,
    Mik



#43
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by Mik - January 18, 2024, 07:47:02 PM
Hi, you might want to go back to the beginning of my first post in this sequence.

There were three main points:

If the news is bothering you don't watch it. My rationale argument was: "the news rarely includes good things" (of which the world is full of wonderful good things) "because 'good news' is not , or rarely, profitable."  -- So why watch it?

I encouraged her to have faith that she could create a world that was good for her personally.

That most iterations of people in thier (current) time-life-cycle learn most of the lessons they came here to learn. [But that there is no rush, or demand, that they do so.]

Peace.

And as always...
I wish for you, and everyone,...

(Joy and) Happiness,

Invalan, I don't know what you personally are looking for in Seth writings. I hope you find it. At the very minimum - I hope you claim/create Joy and Happiness for yourself.

Mik.

#44
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by inavalan - January 18, 2024, 06:09:10 PM
Quote from: Mik on January 18, 2024, 04:50:49 PMYou are right. The fact that we all create our own reality is the basic tenant of all reality, not just Seth's writing.

(Joy and) Happiness,
    Mik.


There are more people that believe differently.

You see, your paraphrase doesn't say exactly what Seth says, and might lead to different interpretations.

As an identity, be it an individual or a group, you create your own reality; and there is an endless number of distinct realities.

When you say "we", you leave room to the belief in a single and objective reality, which I believe not to be what Seth described, and what I believe too.

My bringing attention to this tenet was intended to address your post about better news. Those news don't affect your reality. Asking others to change them means that you delegate the creation of your reality to external forces, which contradicts the basic tenet: it doesn't work, no matter how it might appear to be. It is like trying to slim down your image in the mirror, instead of losing weight.
#45
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by Mik - January 18, 2024, 04:50:49 PM
You are right. The fact that we all create our own reality is the basic tenant of all reality, not just Seth's writing.

(Joy and) Happiness,
    Mik.
#46
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by inavalan - January 18, 2024, 04:18:31 PM
"You create your own reality" is the basic tenet of the Seth material.

This also means that your reality isn't created by others, and also that you don't create others' reality either.

Everyone joined this learning framework to learn, practice, and master creating his own reality.

The "individually and en masse" means that you create your own individual reality, and that each group creates its own group reality. It doesn't mean that the group imposes its reality on yours, nor that you impose your reality on the group's.

The outer reality you experience is the materialization of your inner reality. You can change what you experience only by changing your inner reality (beliefs, thought, emotions).

If there were no challenges, we wouldn't learn anything, and waste our sojourn here. This doesn't mean that suffering is good or necessary, but that suffering is a gauge of our current ability to create reality. This applies both to our direct and indirect suffering.

#47
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by Mik - January 18, 2024, 12:18:31 PM
Larry,

Thank you for that information, I'll look into the two first sources.

 I try to not watch any form of TV to avoid ads and other forms of influences from outside. (Both through people around me and other sources of information, I am still exposed to much World happenings). So I'll avoid the news. But thank you for the knowledge.


(Joy and) Happiness,
    Mik.
#48
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by LarryH - January 18, 2024, 11:06:14 AM
I subscribe to two positive news sources:
Sign up for "Upworthy" for a daily emailed dose of inspirational stories.
Sign up for the weekly email from humanprogress with links to interesting developments.

Another source of daily inspiration is the last few minutes of any of the three major US networks' nightly news (6:30 Eastern time), all of which attempt to finish off with positive or inspirational stories.

That being said, I watch the whole half-hour of one of those network news sources (CBS) because I like to stay informed about world and national events and can stay positive despite that.
#49
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by inavalan - January 18, 2024, 03:03:10 AM
Quote from: Mik on January 18, 2024, 02:24:24 AM... I think many people would really like to hear a feature about people that are being saved in the hospital.

As I said ... Run a poll about that. I vote: not interested. As you said, I prefer not to focus on hospital activity, because I want to "be healthy", and not to "be sick and successfully healed".

People are quite different, and unexpected. Who am I to decide what is good and bad for others? The majority doesn't know better either.

Anyway, I prefer to talk on this board about Seth, and Seth related stuff. This is why I like to let Seth speak more than paraphrase what Jane put in her words.

For example, what did you understand from the paraphrase you posted, and for which you wanted to find a quote? I don't understand what you meant.

Quote from: MikAs Seth says, (paraphrased):
Before birth a structure is created (by each individual self) and put in place to help everyone do that
#50
Miscellaneous / Re: How important is the real
Last post by Mik - January 18, 2024, 02:24:24 AM
That was a heavily abridged list of alternative possible positive topics that might be suitable to report on, rather than as compared to, only negative and sensational items which is currently 95% of our news.

And my major point was to NOT WATCH perpetually negative news when clearly the information is cherry picked to be sensational and negative --- for the purpose of generating greater profits (and/or meet an agenda, as you pointed out) while ignoring almost all possible good news. That is because negative news generates sales/traffic.

The reason to not watch: Where a person focuses their attention; that's what they're going to get. Not watching the news would increase the quality of many people's lives.

And I disagree (some more, as it seems): I think many people would really like to hear a feature about people that are being saved in the hospital.

You are correct: those ideas are mine alone that I came up with in about 8 minutes. I would really like for people to add what they think would make good news that is worthy of being seen/heard/read. Thanks in advance.

(Joy and) Happiness,
    Mik.