Seth on overcoming the fear of death

[Sena]

The coronavirus is a plague, but the fear of death is also a plague. Seth gives us good advice on overcoming this fear:

"You read yourself in too-narrow terms. Much of the pain connected with serious illness and death results because you have no faith in your own continuing reality. You fight pain because you have not learned to transcend it, or rather to use it. You do not trust the natural consciousness of the body, so that when its end nears — and such an end is inevitable — you do not trust the signals that the body gives, that are meant to free you. Certain kinds of pain automatically eject consciousness from the body. Such pain cannot be verbalized, for it is a mixture of pain and pleasure, a tearing free, and it automatically brings about an almost exhilarating release of consciousness. Such pain is also very brief. Under your present system, however, drugs are usually administered, in which case pain is somewhat minimized, but prolonged — not triggering the natural release mechanisms. If you read your selves adjacently, you would build up confidence in the body, and in those cooperative consciousnesses that form it. You would have an intimate awareness of the body's healing processes also. You would not fear death as annihilation, and would feel your own consciousness gently disentangle itself from those others that so graciously couched it." (from "The Nature of the Psyche: Its Human Expression (A Seth Book)" by Jane Roberts, Robert F. Butts)

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[jbseth]

Hi Sena,

Thanks for posting this.

I get 2 major points from this post.

First Seth tell us that, much of the pain connected with serious illness and death results because we have no faith in your own continuing reality.  I know that many people fear death because they have no faith in their own continuing reality. However, I didn't realize however that Seth also says that much of the pain that we experience with serious illness and death also results from this. That's a very interesting point.


Along with this, I also didn't realize that Seth says, "Certain kinds of pain automatically eject consciousness from the body. Such pain cannot be verbalized, for it is a mixture of pain and pleasure, a tearing free, and it automatically brings about an almost exhilarating release of consciousness. Such pain is also very brief. "

That's also a very interesting point that I wasn't aware of.

Thanks for sharing this Sena.


-jbseth

[Sena]

jbseth, I am glad you found this useful. I am finding the lockdown in London quite stressful. I have had to curtail my daily walks.

[Deb]

I have had to curtail my daily walks.

I'm sorry to hear that, that would get to me too. Walks are a great stress reliever for me.

Great quote about fear and pain. I think somewhere else in the Seth books he mentioned that at the time of an inevitable death, our essence/soul will eject itself out of the body, as he said in this quote, so we would avoid any pain entirely. I could be wrong about that, it could have been Hicks that said it. I should probably do a search.

A lot associated with this virus can be tied to our "confidence in the body."

[Sena]

Following on from my previous post, I am walking more, trying to keep a distance of 6 feet.

The more I think about the Covid 19 epidemic, the more it seems to me that the "purpose" of the epidemic is to force us to think about death, and this is where Seth's teachings are so valuable. Here are two two more quotes:

"Each present moment of your experience is dependent upon the future as well as the past, your death as well as your birth. Your birth and your death are built in, so to speak, together, one implied in the other. You could not die unless you were the kind of creature who was born, nor could you have a present moment as you consider it. Your body is aware of the fact of its death at birth, and of its birth at its death, for all of its possibilities for action take place in the area between. Death is therefore as creative as birth, and as necessary for action and consciousness, in your terms. (Pause at 9:40.) It is not quite that simple, however, for you live in the midst of multitudinous small deaths and births all of the time, that are registered by the body and the psyche." (from "The Nature of the Psyche: Its Human Expression (A Seth Book)" by Jane Roberts, Robert F. Butts)

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"My own "previous" personalities are not dissolved into me any more than your "past" personalities. All are living and vital. All go their own way. Your "future" personalities are as real as your past ones. After a while, this will no longer concern you. Out of the reincarnational framework, there is no death as you think of it. My own frame of reference, however, is no longer focused on my reincarnational existences. I have turned my attention in other directions. Since all lives are simultaneous, all happening at once, then any separation is a psychological one. I exist as I am while my reincarnational lives — in your terms — still exist. Yet now I am not concerned with them, but turn my concentration into other areas of activity. (10:41.) Personality changes whether it is within a body or outside of it, so you will change after death as you change before it. In those terms, it is ridiculous to insist upon remaining as you are now, after death. It is the same as a child saying: "I am going to grow up, but I am never going to change the ideas that I have now." The multidimensional qualities of the psyche allow it to experience an endless realm of dimensions. Experience in one dimension in no way negates existence in another." (from "Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul (A Seth Book)" by Jane Roberts)

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[Deb]

Wow, I hear you. I was raised Catholic, but it never stuck. I remember being a kid and being told when you die you go to heaven. IF you accept JC as your personal savior. But wait... no... as a Catholic you die and then wait in your grave until Jesus comes back and sets everyone free. Then you go to heaven. The idea of people like Bundy, who ruined so many lives will go to heaven because at the last moment he became a Christian, was totally outrageous to me.

Years of public school left me thinking you die and and that's all she wrote. I can't say I was ever a true atheist, I was more of an agnostic, hopeful there was more than what meets the eye. When I was introduced to the idea of reincarnation all I could think was, am I going to have to go through childhood and school again? When in this life they were pure hell? The thought was depressing. Growing up, I experimented with beliefs, trying out witchcraft for a short period of time, reading books on various theologies, even being a paranormal investigator for a few years, with some interesting experiences.

Finding the Seth materials put an end to that type of searching, his explanations satisfied my curiosity and answered questions I didn't even know I had. It all made more sense than anything I'd come across prior to that. I still enjoy the occasional book about NDEs, OBEs, paranormal experiences. I've had "contact" with dead family members that have solved problems for me and them. Could that be my subconscious at work? Maybe, but I'm not closing my mind to the possibility they were real. I've had amazing lucid dreams, almost-OBEs, experiences that can't be explained by science. I love that! And then there came a point, while still a paranormal investigator, I stopped bringing all the electronic equipment with me because the personal/subjective experience was really what I was looking for. Well except for EVP recordings, I love them and they're usually out of the range of human hearing. But I found the equipment to be distracting, and I wasn't about "proving" anything to anyone else but me. Really, who doesn't doubt other people's "proof" of the paranormal?

I have had glimpses of possible other incarnations of myself. I don't fear death. That may change when I'm confronted with that situation, such as in a crash of some sort. While I don't fear death per se, I really don't want a nasty one involving fear, anticipation and pain (yes to manner of death). I've had dreams where I've been killed, such as in a plane crash, and at the time accepted the inevitable and rode it out. Sort of like when know you're going to fall and finally accept it gracefully—committed or fight it, it's still going to happen.

I think your father has changed his belief by this point.