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Offline Sena

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According to Seth "ALL events are precognitively perceived", but we are usually not conscious of this precognition. This means that sometimes we may need to make a decision without being conscious of the real reason for the decision. Sometimes we have to follow our "gut instinct".

"The point is that in most such cases the subjective recognition of an approaching event flows so easily and transparently into your attention, and fits in so smoothly with the events of the day, as to go unnoticed. You help mold the nature and shape of events without realizing it, overlooking those occasions when the processes might show themselves. When they do, you might question: Could it be possible that you really were perceiving an action ahead of time? Later, some people more stubborn than others might try to “prove” that some events are definitely precognitively perceived—but the point is that all events are precognitively perceived (intently), and that you actually step into an event, become part of it, reject it, accept the certain version you have “picked up,” or exert yourself to make certain changes that affect the nature of the event itself. Even the conscious mind contains much more information about the structure of events than you realize you possess. The physical perceiving apparatuses of all organizations carry their own kinds of inner systems of communication, allowing events to be manipulated on a worldwide basis before they take on what appears to be their final definitive physical occurrences in time and space." (from "Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Volume Two (A Seth Book)" by Jane Roberts, Robert F. Butts)

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"All systems of reality are created, or constructed, by those who perceive the system. Those who do not construct a system cannot perceive it. Now. There is nothing at all unusual in precognitive experiences. They occur constantly beneath the level of your awareness. However there are certain conditions necessary before precognitions can arise to conscious levels, and there are definite conditions that must exist before what you call apparitions can be perceived."
—The Early Sessions book 6 Session 253 April 25, 1966

Offline LarryH

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all events are precognitively perceived
Subjects that were shown random images of either a soothing or disturbing nature had galvanic responses consistent with the nature of the next slide before it was shown. This proves an unconscious precognition. In fact, I have considered this as an explanation for deja vu. For me, deja vu experiences are not "this has happened before, a long time ago", but rather, "this just happened moments ago." I think deja vu is that rare experience of the normally unconscious precognition becoming conscious. We are remembering the precognition of the current event.

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Subjects that were shown random images of either a soothing or disturbing nature had galvanic responses consistent with the nature of the next slide before it was shown. This proves an unconscious precognition.
Larry, thanks for your comments.

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"The point is that in most such cases the subjective recognition of an approaching event flows so easily and transparently into your attention, and fits in so smoothly with the events of the day, as to go unnoticed. You help mold the nature and shape of events without realizing it, overlooking those occasions when the processes might show themselves. When they do, you might question: Could it be possible that you really were perceiving an action ahead of time? Later, some people more stubborn than others might try to “prove” that some events are definitely precognitively perceived—but the point is that all events are precognitively perceived (intently), and that you actually step into an event, become part of it, reject it, accept the certain version you have “picked up,” or exert yourself to make certain changes that affect the nature of the event itself. Even the conscious mind contains much more information about the structure of events than you realize you possess. The physical perceiving apparatuses of all organizations carry their own kinds of inner systems of communication, allowing events to be manipulated on a worldwide basis before they take on what appears to be their final definitive physical occurrences in time and space." (from "Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Volume Two (A Seth Book)" by Jane Roberts, Robert F. Butts)


Hi Sena,

Thanks for starting this topic. It’s a very interesting one indeed.  :)

I was curious about the context behind this quote and so I looked it up. This quote comes from DEaVF2, CH9, S932.

What I found to be really interesting here is the information in this session that leads up to this quote. It turns out that during this session, Seth was talking about a specific event that had recently occurred to Jane and Rob.




One Saturday, Jane found herself thinking about some married friends who lived out of town about ½ hour away. Jane suddenly desired to see them and thought about calling them up and inviting them over, even though she and Rob had already decided against having guests over that weekend. As a result of this, Jane didn’t call them and soon afterwards forgot all about this.

Then fifteen minutes later, the same idea returned. Jane noticed this and then once again let it go.  In about a half hour after this, the same ideas reoccurred once again. This time Jane mentioned this episode to Rob and then once again, let it go.

Somewhat later in the day, the mail came and Jane and Rob received a letter from these same friends that was just written the day before. In this letter, these friends mentioned that they’d be in the area the next day and would stop by for a visit.

After this, there was even more back and forth in this story between Jane and Rob and their friends but to make a long story short, Jane and Rob’s friends did stop by and visit with Jane and Rob that Saturday evening.





Seth then makes the comment that, there is more involved here than just the questions about whether Jane perceived the visit precognitively or whether she perceived this information directly from the minds of her friends, or from the letter itself, which had already been mailed at the time?

Seth then tell us that this is somewhat like remote sensing, or like an interior radar equipment that operates in a psychological field of attention, so that you are somewhat aware of the existence of certain events that concern you as they come into the closer range of probabilities with which you are connected.

Seth says that in a certain way you “step into the event” at that level. You accept or reject it as a probability. You make certain adjustments, perhaps altering particular details, but you step into and become part of the inner processes—affecting, say, the shape or size or nature of the event before it becomes a definite physical actuality.

Seth also says that in most such situations, the subjective recognition of an approaching event flows so easily and transparently into our attention, and fits in so smoothly with the events of the day, as to go unnoticed. You help mold the nature and shape of events without realizing it, overlooking those occasions when the processes might show themselves.

The following spoiler contains much of what Seth has to tell us in this session.




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- jbseth


Offline Sena

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Seth says that in a certain way you “step into the event” at that level. You accept or reject it as a probability. You make certain adjustments, perhaps altering particular details, but you step into and become part of the inner processes—affecting, say, the shape or size or nature of the event before it becomes a definite physical actuality.
jbseth, thanks for setting out the context of my quote.

 

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