The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events

Started by Sena, January 15, 2021, 05:39:26 AM

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Sena

January 15, 2021, 05:39:26 AM Last Edit: January 15, 2021, 06:09:49 AM by Sena
I have up to now bought mainly the Kindle versions of the Seth books. I had a pdf copy of NOME, which is available on the internet, but I had not read it cover to cover. jbseth pointed out on another thread that NOME is a complicated book which needs to be read carefully. So I bought a second-hand print copy:



Having a print copy encourages one to read the book from cover to cover, beginning with the Introduction. Some quotes from the Introduction:

"In this book he (Seth) comments on our
religions, sciences, cults, and on our
medical beliefs as well, with an
uncompromising wisdom —
as if — as if he represents some deep part of
the human psyche that knows better, that has
always known better — as if he speaks out
not only with my voice but for many many
other people — as if he represents the truths
that we have allowed ourselves to forget.
What truths? That our dreams come
alive at midday; that our feelings and beliefs
turn into the reality we experience
"

"Since we are all involved with world
events, it is highly important that we also
understand how we fit into those global
actions, and see how our negative beliefs
about ourselves and the species can result
in situations far less than ideal
, and quite
different from our stated goals. For this
reason, Seth explains how the theories of
Freud and Darwin confine our imaginations
and our abilities.
Rob and I grew up in the world of
Freudian and Darwinian concepts too, of
course. And we weren't given any magical
immunity from the unfortunate results of
such cramped vision. Those theories, along
with religion's belief in the flawed self, have
left their marks on all of our lives."
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Deb

Hi Sena, congrats on your book purchase. I have almost all of the books now in print, with some also in Kindle, but I love having hard copy books that I plan to keep. Mine are so dog-eared, underlined and highlighted that they might look abused to some. To me they look much loved.

It's a great one, I could probably just get by with Mass Events and Personal Reality, those to me are the "quick start" guides to the Seth materials. But I also have said often my favorite Seth book is the one I'm reading at the time.

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jbseth

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jbseth pointed out on another thread that NOME is a complicated book which needs to be read carefully.

Hi Sena, Hi All,

I think that NOME is one of Seth's most insightful books. If you want to know about "mass events" this is the book to go to.

That being said, I've found that it's difficult to completely unravel what Seth had to say here about some of the topics mentioned in this book. The reason for this seems to be that the topics themselves and/or some related subjects, are scattered across or throughout this book. Here's an example of what I'm talking about, based on my copy of this book, which is a hardbound copy.


If you want to dig into what Seth had to say about "epidemics", in the index of this book you'll find that this topic is mentioned on pages 20, 21, 24, 30, 31, 32 and 34. These pages are all within the first chapter of the book. However, you'll also find that this topic is mentioned on pages 140 and 177, which is in the middle chapters of the book.

Now, if you're really interested in this subject, you may also be interested in what Seth had to say about viruses, a related subject. In the index of this book, you'll find that Seth talks about viruses on pages 182, 183, 184, 188, 189 and 190. These pages are all within the middle chapters of the book.  However, you'll also find that this topic is mentioned on pages 266, 268 and 280, which is in the later chapters of the book.

Once again, if you're really interested in this subject of "epidemics", you may also be interested in what Seth had to say about inoculations, also a related subject. In the index of this book, you'll find that Seth talks about inoculations on pages 73 and 74. For some reason, they don't even mention that this subject is also mentioned on pages 72 and 75. Furthermore, the subject of inoculations is also mentioned on pages 21, 22, 29, and 32, where Seth talks about epidemics and pages 183 and 183, in the middle chapters of the book.

If you really want to know what Seth had to say about epidemics and you really also would like to understand what he had to say about viruses and inoculations, two related subjects, you'll find this information is actually located at numerous places across this book.


Likewise, I've found the subject of "natural disasters", another type of mass event or the mention of natural disasters themselves (flood, avalanche) discussed on pages 39, 41, 90, 104, 130, 135 and 139.


I've also found the subject of "war" a third type of mass event was briefly mentioned on pages 176 and 226.

These aren't the only examples of this, in this book, but this is the issue that I was trying to make about this specific book. Its complicated because the information relating to many of the topics that are discussed in this book, are scattered throughout this book at various places.


-jbseth

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Sena

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Now, if you're really interested in this subject, you may also be interested in what Seth had to say about viruses, a related subject. In the index of this book, you'll find that Seth talks about viruses on pages 182, 183, 184, 188, 189 and 190.
jbseth, I think Seth says somewhere that viruses are highly intelligent:

"Give us a moment . . . What I have said about viruses applies
to all biological life. Viruses are "highly intelligent" — meaning that they
react quickly to stimuli. They are responsive to emotional states. They are
social. Their scale of life varies considerably, and some can be inactive
for centuries, and revive. They have extensive memory patterns,
biologically imprinted. Some can multiply in the tens of thousands within
seconds. They are in many ways the basis of biological life, but you are
aware of them only when they show "a deadly face.""

jbseth

Hi Sena, Hi All,

Yes, technically Seth did say that viruses are highly intelligent. However my personal issue here is that the statement, "Viruses are highly intelligent", can be highly misleading, when taken out of context of what Seth actually did and didn't say here.


What Seth did say here was this:

Viruses are "highly intelligent" — meaning that they react quickly to stimuli.

Here, Seth is clearly using this statement "highly intelligent" in terms of the concept that here, the word "intelligence" refers to the idea that "they react quickly to stimuli". That, and the rest of what he says here such as being responsive to emotional states.


What Seth "didn't" say here is that viruses are highly intelligent, in terms of how we humans typically think about and use the word "intelligent".  Such as in the statement, "Bob is highly intelligent. He's got a PhD in Physics, he passed the "Mensa" test and when tested was found to have an IQ of 180."

To say that Seth said that viruses are "highly intelligent", can be very misleading and is erroneous in terms of the context used by many people in daily conversation.


-jbseth