New book about the Seth materials!

Started by Deb, October 07, 2021, 04:13:31 PM

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A new book by John Friedlander is coming out in February. He was an ESP class member 1973/1974. He's been educated and makes a living in metaphysics, has written several books on psychic development. http://psychicpsychology.org/authors

An excerpt from one of his books, The Practical Psychic, is available to read or download on my Dropbox. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gekemz6uw9cbvh/KnowingJaneSeth.pdf?dl=0. This excerpt, Knowing Seth and Jane, appeared in "Reality Change magazine, a magazine for people who want to change their lives," Jan/Feb 1992, Vol. 9, No.1. I've included an ad for his Practical Psychic book in the file, which was in the same issue of Reality Change. He had a nice endorsement from Rob, but Rob tended to do that for new authors, especially if they were class members.

Mary's notes say that he claimed at one time to channel Seth, but then stopped saying that. I got in trouble for mentioning that on FB. :)  But you'll see in his Amazon book excerpt that he pretty much says that in a couple of different ways. That always makes me leery, but I did like his writing in Reality Change.

The new book is Recentering Seth: Teachings from a Multidimensional Entity on Living Gracefully and Skillfully in a World You Create But Do Not Control Available in Kindle or print.

From Amazon:

• Reframes Jane Roberts's Seth teachings, recentering them in the awareness that all consciousness expands in all directions

• Examines how we create our reality through our conscious beliefs but how no one controls spontaneous reality so you cannot simply will your desires into being

• Synthesizes Sethian teachings with an eclectic variety of concepts, schools, and influences, from aura reading and interpersonal engagement to Buddhism and Theosophy to nondual awareness, multipersonhood, and communication theory

See more on Amazon, plus there's a long excerpt from Chapter 1 under Editorial Reviews.

Feelings or opinions anyone?
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strangerthings

October 07, 2021, 04:57:14 PM #1 Last Edit: October 14, 2021, 01:06:12 AM by strangerthings
Quote from: Deb on October 07, 2021, 04:13:31 PMMary's notes say that he claimed at one time to channel Seth, but then stopped saying that. I got in trouble for mentioning that on FB. :)  But you'll see in his Amazon book excerpt that he pretty much says that in a couple of different ways. That always makes me leery


**Seth will always and only come from Jane Roberts (period)



Seth (Session 510): "...my communications will come exclusively through
(Jane) at all times, to protect the integrity of the material...
--DEaVF1 Essay 5: Sunday, April 18, 1982

(Session 463): It is quite natural that others...who are experimenting
should go through a stage in which it seems to them they are receiving
information from me.

--The Early Sessions Book 9




There was a lady laying on a sofa channeling Seth on youtube. lol
The comments are disabled...
I really try my best to avoid them all.

It is quite a thing to say "I channel Seth" and something wholly different to say "I channeled energy what is it who is it but here this is what I channeled."

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strangerthings

October 07, 2021, 05:17:36 PM #2 Last Edit: October 14, 2021, 01:14:32 AM by strangerthings
Quote from: Deb on October 07, 2021, 04:13:31 PMFrom Amazon:

• Reframes Jane Roberts's Seth teachings, recentering them in the awareness that all consciousness expands in all directions

• Examines how we create our reality through our conscious beliefs but how no one controls spontaneous reality so you cannot simply will your desires into being

• Synthesizes Sethian teachings with an eclectic variety of concepts, schools, and influences, from aura reading and interpersonal engagement to Buddhism and Theosophy to nondual awareness, multipersonhood, and communication theory

See more on Amazon, plus there's a long excerpt from Chapter 1 under Editorial Reviews.




How do you "reframe" the Seth material?!

Just buy the Seth books and Cds - I really enjoy the way Linda Dahl and Rick Stack discusses Seth teachings. No name calling etc

Find what works for you and in small ways improve when you can or not. Just reading it to absorb it seems to be enough, especially at first.

(Yes I have edited this because I was off balance and I am not longer fussy and projecty I am allowing the world to be. Everyone has their ways of doing things. )

Deb

Quote from: strangerthings on October 07, 2021, 04:57:14 PMSeth will always and only come from Jane Roberts (period)

Ha ha, truthfully, I'm not the idiot you seem to think I am. Seth would only come through Jane, that's what I've always read. But there are others who argue the point (even Tam Mossman) that Seth came through Jane as Seth, but left the door open that he would speak in other ways through others under another guise. So I leave that door open a bit and go on my merry way.

As far as getting in trouble on FB, Barrie Gellis, who is the biggest defender of "Seth would only speak through Jane," got on my case when I said Mary's notes said this guy told people he was channeling Seth. He was not the only one. Of all people to challenge me! But at the time I'd said that, Friedlander did not have his Chapter 1 excerpt up on Amazon and they thought I was making it up.

As far as reframing the Seth material, I have no idea about how he "does" that. Did you read Rob's endorsement? Baffling. But yet Lynda Dahl does a great job of presenting Seth's concepts in a way that almost anyone can understand, so that could be interpreted as reframing.

I'm glad you find me entertaining. Personally, I'm happy with the Seth materials. I have more than enough to read to keep me busy the rest of my life.
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strangerthings

Quote from: Deb on October 07, 2021, 08:41:39 PMHa ha, truthfully, I'm not the idiot you seem to think I am.

Never do I think that!
I like you way too much.  ;D
So strange to me you would type that! 
You did ask for our feelings and opinions lol (Im chockfull of them in regards to certain topics  :P )

Quote from: Deb on October 07, 2021, 08:41:39 PMSo I leave that door open a bit

I do too but not about Seth. There are so many people channeling now it is dumbfounding.

Quote from: Deb on October 07, 2021, 08:41:39 PMI'm glad you find me entertaining. Personally, I'm happy with the Seth materials. I have more than enough to read to keep me busy the rest of my life.

You are entertaining  :-*  In a most delightful way! Sometimes your insightfulness is so spot on and I enjoy reading your posts! But that is not where my posting is directed. I have seen and experienced way too many hidden lures for my taste. I see stuff like that and I guess there is a part of me that wants to sound off the warnings. When I see or hear words like "re-centering" and "reframing" my spidey senses tingle. I am well pleased with the Seth material and I too have enough to read plus this forum keeps adding more to my list  :-* 

I am so opposed to more "Seth returning" channeling because.... when Seth says and Jane says, he is not coming back and they had a contract to protect the integrity of the work..... I believe them. If Seth really did return, the integrity would be shaken to its core IMO. I personally think Seth knew this.

Jane's feelings about a (paraphrasing here) cult-ish mentality ... to me.. was for a "good" reason. Some folks want a savior. She did not want to be one of those. That how I take all that anyway. I really respected that!! It couldn't have been an easy tackle in my eyes. Within. I think anyone with integrity and respect for the work would feel this and struggle with their ego.

For example: When Neville talks they way he does - it will certainly do this in a way - at least for me.

Another thing I do not understand about the ones claiming to channel Seth is: why people do it when they claim  to love the work so much and know this work needs to hold its integrity. Maybe they do not understand this? I honestly do not know! Seth clearly states it would seem to them that they are. He also states that this knowledge is our knowledge. Seth is not the only be all end all in personality essences! The world is unlimited. Our individual power within is so vast! Our Entities are so ... massive! Why does it have to be "Seth" ? I am sticking with my belief in that it only seems as though they are.

And prissy (his words) is not a word I would use on me to say I do not like others claiming they are channeling Seth. Seth is Seth. I dont know who those others are.

And no I did not see the forward Rob did! I missed that I will take another look. Thanks for pointing that out. That is baffling. I read your dropbox file, and the amzn stuff ????


Here is a bizarre thought..... what if.... everyone began channeling? What would life look like then ?
They can not all be Seth lol

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Deb

Quote from: strangerthings on October 08, 2021, 02:22:23 AMAnd no I did not see the forward Rob did! I missed that I will take another look. Thanks for pointing that out. That is baffling. I read your dropbox file, and the amzn stuff ????

OK, this is interesting (well maybe only for me, I'm into details. Maybe one of the reasons I ended up with Mary's stuff, lol). It's actually an endorsement Rob gave (it's on the last page of the dropbox PDF: "How fascinating this book is—such a practical approach to the study of our nature that one wonders why no one has thought of doing it just this way before!" Rick Stack wrote something too. But I thought his use of 'study of our nature' and 'why no one has thought of doing it just this way' seemed odd in light of Jane and Seth. Maybe I'm just misreading it.

So you wrote the word "forward." The way I found the magazine article is because Mary said Rob had written the forward for Friedlander's Psychic book. I thought that was unusual and wanted to see it. I've found no evidence of that, even looked at the free preview of the book on Amazon. But then I came across the Reality Change ad and saw Rob's endorsement. So I figured Mary was just mistaken, but it's an interesting coincidence that you chose the same word. :)

As far as the new book, I didn't even like the excerpt from Chapter 1. Even the title rubs me the wrong way. I agree that his use of the word "prissy" was an odd choice. I wonder why, if he thinks he's channeling Seth, he would wait almost 50 years since the classes to come out of the closet? Either he needs the money, or he really believes it. Maybe he's getting a little eccentric in his old age. Of all the third party books there are about Jane and Seth (and there are quite a few), they are all about explaining the Seth materials and not one of the claims to channel Seth.

Ever see Roxanne (transvestite) "channeling" Jane on YouTube? I'd like to see him channeling Jane channeling Seth. Now THAT'S entertainment.  ;D
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strangerthings

I just had a thought occur to me..... What if.... These people will lead people to the Seth material and the works of Jane Roberts?

That is a huge plus.

Ok Im shuttin up now. lol
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Deb

Quote from: strangerthings on October 09, 2021, 01:03:53 AMI just had a thought occur to me..... What if.... These people will lead people to the Seth material and the works of Jane Roberts?

A very good point, they probably do. I found Seth through the Abraham Hicks books and never looked back.

Now I'm curious about Friedland's book, just what he's saying Seth says to or through him. I'd just hate to help fill his piggy bank. Maybe I should invite him to the forum.  :o  Kidding. I was kidding.
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Deb

Quote from: strangerthings on October 09, 2021, 07:08:28 PMIt may appear they are channeling Seth but they are not. Why can that not be good enough? Why do they want to FIX something that is NOT BROKEN ?

Right? They want a piece of the pie, whether it's money or attention. Or they are simply delusional.

But I also feel that anyone who has read the Seth materials and understands them, is not going to switch over to some fake Seth channeler. They will recognize it for what it is. There are more than enough Seth books to keep anyone busy for a lifetime. For me, adding Mary's stuff, to infinity and beyond.

People who get the Seth materials are what I consider savvy insiders. The others... it's not the end of the world if they don't get it and not my job to fix that. It's all good. I wish them luck, and let go. I saw people getting excited on FB about this new book, and I felt it my duty to share what I'd heard. When I was accused of being a trouble maker, I just backed off figuring I'd done my job. And then the Chapter 1 excerpt magically appeared on Amazon, lol.

Who is the Seth returns guy?
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strangerthings

Quote from: Deb on October 09, 2021, 07:50:43 PMWho is the Seth returns guy?
sethreturnsdotcom

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And if you are going to be an unteacher.... you do not call people prissy all while peddling your wares ::)

I still am finding that hilarious truly!

I asked my loved one today..is prissy a word you would use to describe me ever at any point?
I got an emphatic NO with a laugh and was asked who called me prissy! lol
I guess I just wanted more laughs!
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Sena

October 09, 2021, 08:53:49 PM #10 Last Edit: October 09, 2021, 09:05:22 PM by Sena
Quote from: strangerthings on October 09, 2021, 08:26:53 PMsethreturnsdotcom
Nice discovery. Whether it is good or bad, I shall have to see.

P.S. "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
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