Ayahuasca

[Doro]

Hello friends

I know that this can go either right or wrong, but I want to know anyway. Is there someone who experienced a ceremony with ayahuasca?
I did book a retreat the next weekend and was in doubt, well, say nearly 2 years. I did ofc my research but in the end this experience is so individual that no one can predict anything.
I am at a point in my life where I really crave change. But to change anything one should be certain in which direction the next steps should go.
And here I am at a loss. All the exercises from Seth sounded so easy and I plainly did not get it or whatever.
My body is complaining more and more and I know it's only in my head - the pain is real though.

I will definitely write to you my experience and happily will read your messages

Love
Doro

[Deb]

Hi @Doro! I've never used it but find it intriguing. It has come up before here, just use the search box up on the top right of the forum and you'll find several topics and comments. I seem to recall someone here trying it, there may also be links to YouTubes. I've never felt free to experiment with drugs despite being of the generation that practically invented them. This is one I've been curious about, but the negative side effects are a big turnoff for me. I can say that in the past few years LSD therapy has been studied and there are some very successful and creative people who swear by it. Ayahuasca is the more "natural" alternative, but I just can't go there.

Results/experiences with anything like this are unpredictable, but then from our Framework 1 perspective, life in general is unpredictable.

I had a very interesting experience with physical pain today. On the way to a meeting I wasn't sure I wanted, I had several physical problems ("itis") caused by what I thought were too many hours in the car. Later, I was walking around in a new and interesting place and realized all of the symptoms were suddenly gone. I can't help but acknowledge that I was causing my pain and it went away when I was distracted. I know better. And yet I repeat. Ha ha, an old advertising slogan comes to mind for some reason. The company Oscar Mayer, which makes hot dogs, bologna and other cold meats, had a slogan "no matter how you slice it, it's bologna." Well, the Seth version is no matter how you slice it, you make your own reality.

[Bora137]

Hi Doro

On and off I consider Ayahuasca. In my youth I took mushrooms and it really changed my limited perception of reality then. It broke down many walls and even though it did not wake me at that time I believe it was necessary to my awakening later on. You seem to have done your research well and personally I think it can be the right step to help crack the illusion - it is the beliefs of the illusion that we are infected with that cause all pain so in the battle to align  ourselves with the truth of reality nothing should be taken off the table imo.

Much love as always Doro

[inavalan]

Hello friends

I know that this can go either right or wrong, but I want to know anyway. Is there someone who experienced a ceremony with ayahuasca?
I did book a retreat the next weekend and was in doubt, well, say nearly 2 years. I did ofc my research but in the end this experience is so individual that no one can predict anything.
I am at a point in my life where I really crave change. But to change anything one should be certain in which direction the next steps should go.
And here I am at a loss. All the exercises from Seth sounded so easy and I plainly did not get it or whatever.
My body is complaining more and more and I know it's only in my head - the pain is real though.

I will definitely write to you my experience and happily will read your messages

Love
Doro

Like with everything, your beliefs and expectations shape your reality ...

So, I suggest you go in (if you decide to go in) with high expectations.

To make sure that you don't just make up your experience, that you minimize the inherent distortions caused by your beliefs, I suggest you tell your subconscious that you leave aside all your beliefs. Go in with this thought in mind.

Good luck!

[Doro]

@inavalan


Like with everything, your beliefs and expectations shape your reality ...
     Yes!


So, I suggest you go in (if you decide to go in) with high expectations.

    I really do. I read in many posts that one just had to let go and expect nothing. You need an intention but shouldn't expect something.... I believe one who doesn't expect anything receive likely random "things". As we said : what you believe....

To make sure that you don't just make up your experience, that you minimize the inherent distortions caused by your beliefs, I suggest you tell your subconscious that you leave aside all your beliefs. Go in with this thought in mind.


    Here is the thing : I have the impression that my believes are blocking "everything" I want to realize. I this retreat I want to break down my believes, freeing myself from old rooted beliefs I wasn't able to transform. Leaving the feeling of being trapped behind. I want to be clear about myself if you know what I mean.
I have the feeling of the need to step out of my way of life to put together a new picture. Taking some of the old parts and transform or leave behind others.
I remember a quote from Seth when he said we could always seek help from our other "parts" in different possible realities. It would be super great for me to find those connections.


Good luck!  Thank you!

Tonight at 2.30 am I will drive to the Munich airport leaving for Amsterdam. I'll be  back to tell you all what was happening.

[Doro]

So I'm back...
Wow what an experience.
I really stressed about setting my intention and in the end it came just in my mind and I did set the perfect intention bevor each of the trips.
Its really hard to tell because the visions were intens and not from this world. At the same time it fits perfectly in my personal understanding. I met my daughters and my husband. Not in their real form. My husband came in his animal spirit and my daughters revealed to me "what they really are". And I understood right away. It was a Realisation without words, just knowing. And I could talk with this animal spirit and I realized why he was so sad. I saw why and when I was at home I could say it to him and he confirmed it. I didn't tell my daughters my insights about what they revealed to me about them because they will make the trip at the end of May and I won't gave them my pictures I received. They should go and see for their own. I'm pretty excited what they say to learn if I perceived the same.
And there were so much answers for me, an understanding of so many things. At one point I knew my life purpose, that was amazing. And I also can drop many themes I had and thought I had to do or to handle. In the end everything was very simple and clear.
I felt very good in a place I could stay like for ever. This feeling of everything is OK and I'm save is great. After the first trip I just could lay there and never get up again. I felt so good. Well of course they came and told me I should eat and drink something. It was already have past seven pm and we started at probably half past 1 pm. We were provided with a bottle of water beside our mattrass and a box with tissues and of course a bucket... I wanted to drink at some point during the trip and "Aya" came to me and said " why do you drink water, drink from me". And I thought yeah fuck the water and went deep in again. So I had to get the water afterwards 😉.
I felt really wobbly and they brought me a bowl of fruit (I was still lying on the mattress and just wouldn't leave this perfect feeling). So I ate and got up and ate some soup as well....
I know that I'll do it again. They recommend that you first should implement the things you've learned in your day to day life. So then there will be other themes to look into whenever you take the next trip.
I also have to tell that during the 2 weeks of the diet one should do before the trip really did already something with me. I was calmer and found something of a slowness in me that really did bring me down and I felt more relaxed in my days work.
I'm not the vegan type but it was really good. I'm cooking more fresh things and more veggies too. And there is already always a bowl of fruit in the kitchen. And I will see to it that it will stay this way. And I am aware that I shouldn't cut the "me" time to do some yoga. Even if I only do some stretching. Things I do for me are essentially to stay aware.

Ah well so much to say but I don't have the proper words. I can also tell that there was much healing on a level that goes beyond the body. I feel peaceful about circumstances and people where I was emotionally really stressed bevor. There is an inner peace now and that feels really good!

I can only recommend to do the trip. It is rewarding.

Doro

[inavalan]

@Doro

Thanks for sharing.

Only if you don't mind ...

Were you lucid during the experience? Did you know who you were when awake, and what you were experiencing? Did you have control over yourself, over the experience? Did you meet a guide, asked any questions?

You wrote that you got many answers and understood many things. From whom?

[Doro]

@Doro

Thanks for sharing.

Only if you don't mind ...

Were you lucid during the experience? Did you know who you were when awake, and what you were experiencing? Did you have control over yourself, over the experience? Did you meet a guide, asked any questions?

You wrote that you got many answers and understood many things. From whom?


I understand your questions. Allow me to come back to you later. I'll pm you. Some things are just too personal to tell
Doro

[Bora137]

Wow Doro that is amazing like it seems the perfect journey. You are definitely unstuck now 🙂. It seems like quite an easy trip, almost ecstatic? No confrontation of the ego which I have read about in ayahuasca trips? I'm thinking your ego is well under control so you are advanced anyway. Amazing I'm so pleased for you 🙏🌸

[Doro]

Wow Doro that is amazing like it seems the perfect journey. You are definitely unstuck now 🙂. It seems like quite an easy trip, almost ecstatic? No confrontation of the ego which I have read about in ayahuasca trips? I'm thinking your ego is well under control so you are advanced anyway. Amazing I'm so pleased for you 🙏🌸

Hello Bora

It was not ecstatic I felt quite "normal". A confrontation with the ego... Well, I guess I didn't think about so like that. I knew my ego just wasn't working at times because I didn't recognized my surroundings. Although I have the impression that my trip was in the structure of mySelf like I would say : ah that's typical me, now I understand how I am or at least parts of me. This is why my trip was so different from everybody who was there. Every single person had a totally different story, visions and feelings. And that was the proof for me that each journey is very very personal. One thing is coming from everyone though : love is the key. Foremost for ourself and we are loved so much. This is an incredible feeling. Yes, it's bliss to feel totally loved and save. Yes, I feel definitely unstuck. I am really happy and grateful 🙏💫