Fun experience of synchronicity today

Started by Deb, January 19, 2015, 08:09:05 PM

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Deb

This isn't earth-shattering news, but I had a fun and surprising morning. I met a new friend for late breakfast today. She's actually my dental hygienist, but we've had conversations over cleanings and found we both have interests in the metaphysical, have read the same books, etc.

We were talking about growing up in small towns and I mentioned that although I've been living in my part of town for 16 years I never run into people I know when I'm out and about. I currently live in a densely populated area and never see the same people twice. Just as I said that, our waitress came to take our order and she is the body-double of my son's ex-girlfriend. I just had to tell her she looked like someone else (I mentioned the name) and she said, "Oh, that's my younger sister." She doesn't live in the area, but just happened to be working at that restaurant today. It was the funniest timing. We chatted for a bit and that was the end of that. After breakfast, my friend and I were finishing up our conversation when a young girl sitting within 10 feet of me blurted out my name. At first I didn't recognize her (she's grown so much) but she's the younger sister of one of my son's playgroup friends (we're talking playgroup from 17 years ago). Then I noticed that her father was sitting on the same wall-length bench that I was sitting on, maybe 5 feet away. He hadn't noticed me. I just couldn't stop laughing. They don't live in that area either -- and neither do I. So we all met in a restaurant that was out of location for all of us.

As a further coincidence, my son called me to say hi before we left the restaurant. He never calls me unless he needs something (college kid). At that same time, my friend's daughter called her. What a fun morning, it really set a fire under me.

Pinky

This is soooo cooool, Deb.  An explosion of synchronicity that makes life pure fun!!

Bumblebee

I'm kind of living the opposite of you right now. Or the same thing. Or both at the same time?

These days I feel de-synchronized with my walking reality. All I see is beliefs and ideas everywhere. People talk to me and I just spot belief systems as the words come out. I feel disconnected with everything and everyone, like I'm in limbo. I don't really want to be here or elsewhere for a matter of fact. Maybe I'm over doing the analysis of beliefs; it's gone overboard.

Then tonight a co-worker invites me to go see a  movie after work. The movie was "Wild". It's about a woman that just leaves everything and goes on a 3 month walk on a nature trail in the USA. She's dealing with all the issues that she was running from in her formal life. This made me realize that I am also not dealing with lots of issues from my past. I still feel I "lost" my husband, house, cats, garden, business, friends, even though I chose to leave because I was very unhappy. I still long for the complicity I experienced with my husband, the sense of unity we had the first few years. I also realized that it hasn't been that long, just a year and a half that this transition happened, and I am still grieving.

Then I get home only to find in the mailbox a gift for the new year from my ex-husband. I just melted in tears. I thought he had just forgotten about me and that he never even thought of me except for the divorce papers. He is not a "gift" person so this means even more to me.

So I guess there is a bit of synchronicity at play here, maybe not as uplifting as yours though. I was ready to see a part of  what I was pushing under the rug. Even though I was saying I was over all that and that I had turned the page, I'm still in fact grieving. As much as I would like to move on, I need to acknowledge these ideas and feelings before letting them go.

Deb

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Bumblebee, I was the opposite of myself until just recently and I don't know what flicked my switch, or whether this is just temporary. Your comment about seeing beliefs and ideas is, I think, part of the process. You're not in limbo so much as you are waking up: you are stepping back for a short time and observing, letting new concepts sink in so you can make your next (educated) move towards expansion.

I feel your loss and the feeling of being lost. It sounds to me like you've been stripped of everything that is familiar to you and that defined--to you--who you are. I can say that because I went through something similar the summer before last. Different circumstances for me, not the loss of a marriage and all the other related connections, but losses. But I've been there too. I remember at some point, the spring before, sending a definite intention to all-that-is that I am ready to become my real self and that I didn't want the process to be gradual: I was strong and ready enough to face the process full throttle. That summer turned into complete chaos and I was stripped of many of the things that I felt defined who I was. It was brutal and eventually affected my health. At some point I realized what I'd asked for and thought "what the fuck was I thinking?" I wanted to go back in time and take it back.

But I'm out the other side of that tunnel now. Things have calmed down and it made me realize that the things I thought defined me were actually only transient roles that I was playing. The real me was a core essence that remained a constant through each role-- and still remains. Do I miss some of those roles? Absolutely! But it also occurred to me that I was stripping myself of those roles to make space for something new and even better. A lot of new doors have opened for me since then and they are all the result of that horrific summer. The message to me became, "whatever you choose, you will be supported 100%."

The gift from your husband was (to me) encouragement for the new you and the decisions you have made. Synchronicity is there as feedback for you. He may not even know why he sent it to you. Seeing the movie "Wild" was also probably validation for your choices.

So, try to look at what's happened in your life from the perspective of an outsider -- you are on your path and because you are too close to it to see the bigger picture. Just take a step back and observe. You may surprise yourself. XOXO Deb

Pinky

Nathalie and Deb, both your posts really moved me.  I could feel myself choking up, Nathalie, when you wrote about your loss and grieving.  You brought me back to my loss--my husband's death and the loss of that life we had together.  I had to grieve for as long and as insanely as I needed until the grief passed through my body.  Not done yet, not by a long shot.  It's a roller coaster.

And Deb, your summer of loss fit like a hand in a glove to Nathalie's--with yours having progressed to the light at the end of the tunnel (knowing there's an end to the tunnel is what always keeps me going).  Your perspective is such a gift.

For both of you, really big hugs.....

Pinky

Dear Friends,

May I share this story and ask for your good feedback?  I think there's some kind of synchronicity going on here or at least no randomness.  My house was burglarized earlier this week on Tuesday while I took my two dogs on a run and no one was home.  Our electronic devices were stolen, but not much more.  All is fine.  In fact, all is really awesome.

Been experiencing the burglary through Seth's teachings, knowing that I co-created this event with the burglars.  Where everyone is seeing a crime that proves how unsafe we are, I'm wondering why I brought the burglary into my life. I'm buoyed by the aftermath: the neighbors' kindness, the patience of the Oakland Police Dept., the cool people at the Mac store when I had to buy a new Macbook to replace the one stolen--many little events that are adding up to something that far out-distances the burglary.  Knowing I'm creating these events is helping me experience this past week with a crazy kind of enjoyment.

I've never been burglarized before, ever.  So I find it interesting that just as I learned the affirmation in Rick's class that "I live in a safe universe" (never done affirmations before, btw), this burglary takes place.  I think it isn't an unsafe event so much as something I brought into my life for a host of other reasons--to bring me face-to-face with myself as a co-creator, to experience the upside of what others view as a bad event.  I don't know, but I prefer this perspective over one that mirrors the reaction of others: negativity, victimhood, being unsafe.

For you all who are also aligning yourselves to your reality as creators, what do you think?

Pinky

Hmmm, my goodness.  I've been spending my Saturday loading up my new Macbook with data I need for work and which I couldn't transfer from my back up disc.  Tedious, so I thought I'd take a break and scroll youtube for any interesting Bashar videos.  I came across this one and realized parts of it answered my ponderings about the burglary in relation to our growing awareness and how that fits in with events in our lives.  Whoa, grateful for the ideas presented here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAz_FmG7nZA




Deb

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Hi Pinky,

Kinda quiet on the forum, huh? It's mostly you and me.  :)

I really enjoyed that Bashar video, he makes things so clear sometimes. Estherham calls those choices "contrast:" by knowing what we don't want, we learn what we do want. They are our road signs to growth and expansion. You can hear more in this clip, although there's plenty to choose from on YouTube.http://youtu.be/BFbZC3wQwks

I feel you pain with loading up a new computer. My desktop was on its way out about a month ago and I finally bought a new iMac Mini with an OS light years newer than my old one. Getting the cranky old software to work on the new computer was a challenge and sometimes fruitless. But for the most part I'm back in business, I just have a little hiccup here and there.

BTW I'm adding a couple of modules to the forum that will make it even more user friendly. One is "Save as Draft" which is something I love using on my blog. I don't know if you've noticed it next to the Post & Preview buttons. There are a couple more mods, I'll probably send out an announcement when I'm sure they're working.

I've been thinking about your post about the burglary most of the day.

QuoteWhere everyone is seeing a crime that proves how unsafe we are, I'm wondering why I brought the burglary into my life. I'm buoyed by the aftermath: the neighbors' kindness, the patience of the Oakland Police Dept., the cool people at the Mac store when I had to buy a new Macbook to replace the one stolen--many little events that are adding up to something that far out-distances the burglary.  Knowing I'm creating these events is helping me experience this past week with a crazy kind of enjoyment.

I thought that was such an insightful observation! My first gut feeling when I read your post is that you were proving your belief to yourself. If all of the Seth stuff is for real, then we have to think we set up these things ourselves in order to grow and learn. Just say, deep down inside, you believe in a safe universe but want material proof of it. You set up a crime that is not violent, with some loss but not devastatingly so. Your attitude through the whole ordeal was upbeat and you chose to see the good that came from it: good neighbors, police and Mac geeks. If that's what was going on, I think you did a fantastic job!

I had a fortuitous car accident during my Summer From Hell. It was right before everything went bad. I was driving up a street and a woman coming from the other direction didn't notice me and made a left turn into me at the intersection. We were both going fairly slowly, but she managed to break my front left wheel and axel. She was driving a really old rusty Subaru wagon that was loaded with old rusty car parts. She could have just taken off as there was no damage to her car, but she pulled over with me and I called the police. Neither one of us was injured. She got a ticket and my car was towed away. It turned out she had her husband's car and she was not an insured driver on it. But somehow our insurance companies worked it out. Plus... the repair shop replaced the side mirror, which had been broken for years, and the entire front bumper which also had a dent for years. So because of the accident, my little old Prius looks almost new and it didn't cost me a penny. ;)

Pinky

OMG.  The posts on this thread have been remarkably insightful for me, sparking an awareness of many things, hitting home in all the right places and happening right at the time of the burglary and all my thoughts around that event and its aftermath.  Then listening to Bashar in the youtube video about the choices we make (with huge thanks to Dae for bringing the current channels to my attention) exactly when I was searching for that message.  I'm thrilled at the unfolding of information that is guiding me.  Good heavens!

It's incredible, the switch from feeling helpless and a victim in a random universe to feeling the power of our own creations and having the awareness to follow the signs that reveal even more signs. I wish I could shout this to the world (or at least to the ones I love deeply, like my kids) so that they can also realize their own power.

There was that quote from Seth about how one day we'll look back lovingly at our existence in the OLC, like a picture from long ago.  It popped into my head as I was stuck in Bay Area traffic yesterday with my dogs after their run.  All day long, these thoughts come up.  It's so damned fun!

Thanks to everyone on this forum.  You rock!

Bumblebee

Pinky,

I truly am impressed of how you managed to perceive the situation of the burglary. I am trying to do the same in my life, but I am struggling a lot. It is hard to think of yourself as a co-creator of an event that for all your life you believed it to be out of your hands. My first reflex is always to think that it is beyond my control. For example I've been waiting for a date to go to court for my divorce for over a year now. I have to keep reminding myself that I am also creating the wait, that  am not a victim of a slow administrative process, or an uninterested lawyer, or a nonchalant soon-to-be ex-husband. I understand the concept of creating my own reality, but I find it hard to understand it "emotionally". It's always easier to point the finger. ;)

So hats off to you sweetie! You're doing a great job!

Pinky

Hey, thanks so much Nathalie for the thumbs-up.  I wonder sometimes if the burglars had really wrecked my house, would I still take ownership?  I hope so.

The other night, I swear to god, I almost ran over a pedestrian crossing the street as I made a left turn right into her.  If it hadn't been for my daughter's rising voice warning me about the pedestrian, life would be quite different right now.  I was pretty shaken.  I had to remind myself about co-creation and also that as close as it was, I DIDN'T hit her.  And like every near miss in my life, I have to remind myself that there are no "what if's" because those probabilities DIDN'T happen in this particular focus.

The other evening I was dining with friends, Leslie and Carl.  Leslie had a stroke in Nov 2014 and it's been a really rough road back to wellness.  On the heels of the burglary, I asked them if they saw any positives from experiencing the stroke, and they each thought a few minutes and then both said how the kindness of neighbors and strangers has been extraordinary.

I must say, Nathalie, that I have a harder time realizing the co-creator role when it comes to larger issues, mostly things I wish I could change in my two kids' lives.  I consciously think about my role in their challenges and ask for insight on that.

I came across a Bashar video that talks about how circumstances don't matter but state-of-mind does, how it's our response to a situation that's important.  See what you think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQU1nFucCPc

As the process for your divorce moves along, I'm hoping you get that "aha!" moment soon, when it all comes together, both in terms of closure and understanding your role in the play.

I think of Deb's telling about her summer of loss (aka Summer From Hell) and how she got through it with insights, understanding and new doors opening.  Man, if Deb's story doesn't offer a light leading out of a dark tunnel, I don't know what does!

Bumblebee

Loved the Bashar video  :) I needed to hear that message. Thanks again Pinky!

I absolutly love the way he insists on PLAYING with ideas and state of mind. I often seem to forget that and take circumstances way too seriously. I also keep telling myself I must be doing something wrong and Bashar just reminded me of this echo theory. I never used those terms to explain it, but it just made so much sense and seemed soooo obvious. Funny how sometimes we know the answers, they are dangling under our noses  and we just can't see them. The video was a great reminder.

Thanks also for sharing your personal stories. It always makes me feel more connected to you and others when I hear stories that resemble some of mine. Even if circumstances are quite different, the challenge and emotions tied to them are often the same. I feel relieved to know I am not alone. much appreciated. :)

Pinky

Do you suppose we'll ever be able to REALLY change our way of living in this reality and not need Seth or Bashar to remind us?  I mean, can we really GET it and embrace our higher intellect deeply and emotionally, or will it always be a bit of a roller coaster?  Sometimes we get it, other times it's just so darn dizzying and elusive.

I do know that when I'm able to consciously meet circumstances with self-responsibility, it's really a gigantic high and I feel slap-happy terrific.  And when I'm feeling powerless and just plain lost (i.e., the official line of consciousness), it sucks big time.

Everybody else's amazing openness with their personal stories helps open me up, slowly but surely.  And I discovered first in the Seth Intensive forum and now here that other people's stories are the biggest and most important stories for me to hear (read).

Thanks to you, Nathalie, and everyone else for that gift.

Deb

Quote from: Pinky on February 03, 2015, 05:08:05 PMDo you suppose we'll ever be able to REALLY change our way of living in this reality and not need Seth or Bashar to remind us?

OMG I sure hope so. I think we're fairly new to these concepts, but like anything else it will take determination, dedication and focus. Since the Intensive ended, I've been going in several directions with work, home, other interests so I've strayed off my focus. I do want to get back there. I need to make that happen.

But... I came across this quote today, when I was looking for something else,

QuoteYou must not expect to be "perfect." As mentioned earlier, your ideas of perfection mean a state of fulfillment beyond which there is no future growth, and no such state exists."
NOPR 674

I know he wasn't directly talking about "getting it" but it seems to fit for me. We are here to learn how to consciously manipulate reality and once we get that right, we move on. But then there's more to learn on that next level. The fact that you (and the rest of us) are aware of this concept and are working at it tells me we're doing pretty good. I mean, awareness is the biggest step towards any change, right?

It's been a long time, maybe a year, since I've had a lucid dream. But in those dreams I realized I could create things "on the fly," just by thinking them into reality, and that was a real kick in the pants. And I am always amazed when I have those dreams as to how realistic and detailed my dream realities are: I look around me and I just can't believe that my mind is able to create things that I have no conscious knowledge of how to do, such as architecture, machinery, interior design & structures. It's really amazing. I wish I could will myself into lucid dreams. Actually I've done that a couple of times, but it's not easy or consistent.

Pinky

Deb, I've never had a lucid dream or an OBE.  Sigh.  I can barely gain a spacious mind when I sit in meditation each morning.  God, I'd love to experience one or the other or all of those, at will.  One day; I'm patient (and I treat myself with a gentle hand).  It'll be awesome.  In the meantime, you are SO right:  awareness has got to be the biggest step toward change.

I really enjoyed reading about what your lucid dreaming was like--dang!

I'm grateful that I've had enough experiences in their own wonderful ways to affirm for me the nature of physical reality vis a vis our inner beings.  No doubt in my mind; just need to be pulled away from the OLC a lot.  That feels like the hardest part when you get sucked back in, the roller coaster.

Deb

Pinky, I can't remember when or why I had my first lucid dream. It just happened. But a few things comes to mind that help me progress:

1. I've started (not with great regularity) to ask myself, during the day, "is this real or a dream?." I can tell when it's real, somehow, but it's become a habit  that carries into to my dreams. Sometimes.

2. While dreaming, sometimes I'll question whether something that's happening makes sense (in the waking world). If it does not, then I question whether I'm dreaming. If I recognize that something does not make sense, it will tip me off that I'm dreaming and I can progress from there.

3. When falling asleep (I often wake up around 3 or 4 am and try this), I will keep mentally saying, "lucid dream, lucid dream". It doesn't always work, but sometimes it does.

4. Have you seen the movie Inception? It's ALL about lucid dreaming. It's totally Hollywood, special effects, beyond-reality, but it captures the imagination and may kick-start you. And I believe that life imitates art.

5. I've found when I sleep with my head towards polar north, I have very graphic and memorable dreams. It may be head-games, but that's my experience.

I keep saying "sometimes" above because I'm not very accomplished at this, but it's been fun.

One of my most recent lucid dreams was after I'd awoken at 3 or 4, finally forced myself to go back to sleep, and "woke up" driving my car. I immediately realized I was dreaming, did a double fist-pump from excitement and happiness, and then promptly woke up. Utter disappointment.

It's a weird sensation some times, to be trying to fall asleep and then I feel like I've fallen through the looking glass. I just love it, I wish I could do it more. There's nothing like it.


Pinky

Oh man, Deb--your description of your lucid dream experiences was the bomb.  I remember a few years back when I attended a session at a meditation center in Berkeley, I sat in on a meeting of the members of the place and many people there talked about their dream life.  It was lucid dreaming they were talking about, as casually as living in this focus of our reality.  One woman said how her dream life was more important to her than her waking life.

You had an OBE once, yes?  Wow.  Some years ago, we had friends who, back in our youth, attended UC Santa Cruz, which was built on a Native American burial site (or something like that).  They told us how they'd be sleeping in their dorm room when suddenly they'd find themselves floating above their bodies.  At the time they told us, it seemed eerie.  Now it seems envious!

One day soon, I'm looking forward to lucid dreams and OBEs.  I'm glad to report that at least I'm waking to remember my dreams again (that's a big thing) although I haven't gotten to the step of analyzing them.  Just happy to remember them!  My last dream this morning had Takeshi Kaneshiro in it--I've been watching The House of Flying Daggers over and over again because it's so stunning.  It stars two of the most beautiful people on the planet, Zhang Ziyi and Kaneshiro.  And in that same dream was my daughter's cat Kida--whom I'm taking care of while she's traveling in Australia.  I love this cat; she brought her home with her from Mongolia.  I woke up from that dream with Takeshi Kaneshiro and Kida in it feeling incredibly good!

Inception is my son's favorite movie.  Julian and our son Sam would be analyzing that movie from every angle, so fascinated were they be Christopher Nolan's concepts.

Deb

I guess technically I didn't have an OBE because I was dreaming, but it was almost like a lesson for me. I was dreaming I was prostrate on a cot and someone (?) was there to coach me into an OBE. I had the sensation that my body was starting to vibrate at a high level, starting with my arms, and I felt myself lifting into... I don't know what. But I also thought "OK, I've done this before," it felt very familiar. Then I was told to wake up so I could remember the event. The thing with dreams is, was it just my imagination/BS?

I'm glad to hear you're remembering your dreams again! I have some pretty wild and entertaining dreams. I've not hear of The House of Flying Daggers but now you've caught my interest and I'll look for it.

Your daughter brought a cat home from Mongolia!?! That just seems so impossible to me! A friend brought a dog back from Mexico and it was a complete nightmare getting through all the quarantine business. That is SO COOL, a Mongolian cat! Your kids are such amazing travelers, both of them! Travel is the best educator and really opens up perspective. Wonderful.

Great to hear Julian and Sam were into Inception. Did you actually watch it yourself? My favorite part was the bending city perspective, but the whole concept was very clever.

I have to admit that although my life is very good, I do love to dream.

Wren


Mmm, I have a warning that this topic hasn't been posted in for at least 120 days but I'm going to post anyway.  :D


I'm always interested in synchronicity &  I also loved the 'Circumstances Don't Matter...' Bashar vid and made a little note, so cheers for that.

My efforts at lucid dreaming have come to a standstill (had a few tiny experiences in the past) but never had an OBE. They must be amazing to have.

BethAnne

I believe that sometimes when you are on this Path it requires "loss" in some way to break your connection with Normal.   ;D
It also seems that a couple years ago the Vibe required it.  Almost everyone I know was going through some reorientation as to their Identity.

Mine started when someone asked me to move to Washington with them and I could not refuse.  It meant reducing my life to just a couple of suitcases.  I gave most of my stuff to a girlfriend who loves having garage sales.  I had built up a great library.  My Books defined me.  I let it all go.

That situation fell apart but was essential that it do so.  I came back and started all over and shortly developed Bell's Palsy from Chicken Pox virus.  After that I had no face, no job, and had to move in with my mother who doesn't care for me.  We had to iron all that BS out before I could move on. 

I was totally emptied out.  Then it took another couple of years to rebuild.  I couldn't stick to my old life even if I tried to Super Glue it.   ;D

Mark 2:22  And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.

Now I'm going through the last Wave.....I hope.  When I do tarot I keep getting the Tower and the Death Card.  Over and Over.  Something is up.  This is the brokest I've ever been.   Things were so unsettled when I came back this time I didn't want to get a job for awhile so lived off of savings.  Finally had to get food stamps this last couple of months.  I'm a great cook and food defines me as much as my books.  You can NOT cook well on Food Stamps.   ;D  Not being able to cook creatively has been worse than loosing my stuff.  Food is Love in my family.  I have nothing to offer. 

And the message over and over has been  "Feed yourself now".

Then this week I asked a friend to trim my hair.  I had been cutting it myself and people would ask where I went because I had it Just Right.  Well, my friend did NOT just  trim my hair.  I do not recognize myself.  And the message has been  "Who are you really?"

Which triggered a dream recall where I'm looking in a mirror in February with an awful hair cut and I'm saying to myself "Well that's finally my real face but this is never going to happen because I'd NEVER cut my hair that way!"  Which is how it is at this time. 

My point is that we are so ingrained with our culturally defined identities it would take living in a cave to over come our programming....or sometimes the Universe helps by giving you a hair cut.

BethAnne

I have to add a PS to that post.  Money has never been high on my priority so I don't equate being broke at this time as a bad thing.  I have a lot of freedom right now which has allowed me to experience some weird energy lately which I couldn't do if I was working.  Having worked very hard since I was 14 I'm having to see myself with out that filter also.    It makes you reconsider what IS Abundance.

John Sorensen

Quote from: Wren on February 20, 2016, 11:11:00 AM

Mmm, I have a warning that this topic hasn't been posted in for at least 120 days but I'm going to post anyway.  :D


I'm always interested in synchronicity &  I also loved the 'Circumstances Don't Matter...' Bashar vid and made a little note, so cheers for that.

My efforts at lucid dreaming have come to a standstill (had a few tiny experiences in the past) but never had an OBE. They must be amazing to have.


Enjoyable. sure? But don't make OBE's out to be anything "special" when they are quite ordinary. It puts the "experience" on an unreachable pedestal.
And you certainly have had such experiences, the question is do you remember them?

BethAnne

Quote from: BethAnne on February 20, 2016, 03:53:36 PMI believe that sometimes when you are on this Path it requires "loss" in some way to break your connection with Normal.
I certainly don't want to put a bad haircut on the same level as a loss of a husband.  That's not the sort of loss I was thinking of and I don't want to take it lightly.    I was thinking more of the Loss of Programing.  Almost everything in our lives is a lie but takes tremendous effort to override that.  Our religion, medicine, economy and politics have all been gone over by Spin Doctors over time.  It's a tremendous shock to our nervous system to throw it all out.

Wren

Quote from: John Sorensen on February 20, 2016, 09:37:08 PMEnjoyable. sure? But don't make OBE's out to be anything "special" when they are quite ordinary. It puts the "experience" on an unreachable pedestal.
And you certainly have had such experiences, the question is do you remember them?

Wow, that has shaken up my beliefs about OBEs! Maybe I needed it.

Yes, I have put OBEs on a pedestal, just like lucid dreaming, although I have had tiny experiences of the latter. My dream recall is a little patchy but I can usually remember some dreams each night.

I have no recall of any OBEs.

Maybe you could offer some more information - it sounds like you have had plenty of experience of them.

Deb

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Quote from: BethAnne on February 22, 2016, 05:04:29 AM
Quote from: BethAnne on February 20, 2016, 03:53:36 PMI believe that sometimes when you are on this Path it requires "loss" in some way to break your connection with Normal.
I certainly don't want to put a bad haircut on the same level as a loss of a husband. 

I'm at the SeaTac airport waiting for my flight back home after the Joe Dispenza Advanced Workshop, couldn't pass up the efficient and free wireless, lol. I'm sadly behind on the forum, may never get caught up, so I'm just having fun and responding willy nilly to what's catching my eye at the moment.

I would not have interpreted your statement about loss that way. Oh, what I've learned these past 5 days! Just one of the things that came up is that when we are finally on our path (to distinguish it from just following the generally accepted official line of consciousness), when we are coming home to ourselves and our potential, those who do want to live an extraordinary life rather than an ordinary one will "lose" some things in their lives along the way. People, things, situations that are not a match will naturally drop away. They have to. Some will be harder to let go of than others. The need for familiarity and the fear of the unknown are instinctive in most.

It takes courage to follow the greater path and not give in to society's expectation that we play small and behave ourselves. As long as we are operating honestly and from the heart and not arrogance or abject selfishness, the losses would hopefully be cooperative. Some people (on the receiving end) will not be open to that concept, depending on where they are spiritually.

I had to split with my ex-husband many years ago, we had become lightyears apart in every possible way. He only recently told me me that he finally realized our divorce was the right thing to do, that everything had turned out for the best for both of us. The funny thing is, he's changed enough himself that I think we could now get along very well.

I hope I didn't take your post fragments out of context. :) 


John Sorensen

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Quote from: Wren on February 22, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
Quote from: John Sorensen on February 20, 2016, 09:37:08 PMEnjoyable. sure? But don't make OBE's out to be anything "special" when they are quite ordinary. It puts the "experience" on an unreachable pedestal.
And you certainly have had such experiences, the question is do you remember them?

Wow, that has shaken up my beliefs about OBEs! Maybe I needed it.

Yes, I have put OBEs on a pedestal, just like lucid dreaming, although I have had tiny experiences of the latter. My dream recall is a little patchy but I can usually remember some dreams each night.

I have no recall of any OBEs.

Maybe you could offer some more information - it sounds like you have had plenty of experience of them.



I'm writing a post on my seth blog right now on that topic, so I'll link to that when done rather than typing out the same info again here.


EDIT: The post is up. I won't spam this thread but will just link to the existing one.
https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?topic=383.msg4396#msg4396

BethAnne

Quote from: Deb on February 22, 2016, 01:30:07 PMI hope I didn't take your post fragments out of context.

Oh No!  You clarified it so much better!  Sounds like you had an Amazing Time!