Hiya Deb ,
I do + don't agree with you but i think you somewhat confuse designations here Deb.
We are a part of ATI , we are not ATI , if we were then we would not be here now as we are.
I would agree that we are all ATI in the sense that we all have the potentialities of our maker but they are mostly just that , potentialities.
i also agree that we are all made up of the same stuff as ATI + that we are ATI in form + being , divine fragments indeed but only fragments , + not the whole .
We did not bring creation into being from a non physical (no time or space) but divine + simultaneous subjective source , only ATI did this.
We do not even know how our own human bodies are brought into existence + sustained nor how even our slightest thoughts come from the realm of the invisible into the visible (or unknown reality as Seth puts it) , it is all given to us.
It can rightly be said that in a qualitative sense we are all the same as ATI + equal , as we are all made up of the same stuff or issue of ATI, but then so is an ant or puddle or flea.
Buttttt , in a quantitative sense , meaning the real or true knowledge + base/experience , we have yet to get to know our true inner selves/entities let alone a non phys' being such as Seth2 or going further , the pyramid gestalts , so on that level we are tiny little fragments indeed + in no way equal to ATI whatsoever.
If ATI withheld His support , which He could , tho He would not , not one iota of reality would remain .
He sustains us , we do not sustain Him .
The only circumstance where ATI did or does in some way withdraw His support is when He created nonbeing + when He reabsorbes all of reality after a great cycle of manifestation , but this nonbeing exists only in relation to His created progeny + not to ATI Himself even tho He too slumbers .
I understand how much Seth stressed that we have a part in all realities at all levels but this is merely intellectual supposition on our part until one has an OOB or expansive experience of some sort + then we think that yes maybe we have had an experience of the divinity within us but it is allways fleeting + always there is more to learn + exp'.
Only ATI has all knowledge at all times (+ outside of time) .
ATI does cyclically or periodically reabsorb all of His creation back into Himself + sleeps or rests.
I really don't give 2 hoots about what anyone may think of such a reality + if ever i come across Seths remarks on the subject i'll let you know .
This reabsorption , for the created beings , of whatever import , from their perspective is as if they are in a state or condition of nonbeing , not aware of themselves or of any thing . Perception has ceased . As Seth says , all of the probabilities/possibilities of cons' have been blocked or are in suspension . This is nonbeing , it is a realty , a divine fact + cannot therefore go out of reality or become nonexistent .
Nonbeing is not nonexistence , it is existence that has been suspended , not able to express any prob' or poss' of its own cons' whatsoever . It is more than asleep as there is no perception no dreams , but it is Held in the bossom of ATI as the potentiality of the coming ''new'' creation .
Nor does nonbeing mean the anhilation of individuality . As simlpy as can be put , nonbeing is a deep dreamless sleep in which there is no perception or memory of perception + yet one will awaken + remember who + what he is + where he is as an indiv' being .
Only ATI can reawaken this dreaming faculty after nonbeing + bring all of creation back into the reality of divine fact . As ATI awakens so all other forms of cons' start to reawaken . No other created being can do this , not even the pyramid gestalts . Nonbeing is truly a sacred mystical state .
There is only one reality of nonbeing , created by ATI to ''hold'' all of His dreams , all of the myriad forms of cons' that existed in Him as divine fact (meaning you + me etc) , in ''suspension'' whilst He agonised in His searching for the means to be , or , actualisation , + indivdual freedom . Without the safety cushion of nonbeing + suspension ATI could not be free to persue His agonised + contracted yearning , as His own dream creations would have suffered intolerably + would have faced an almost certain insanity .
Because nonbeing is a reality of divine fact , it can be revisited by the little fishes that like to swim upstream + back to the source , so to spk . These little fishes obviously come back with some pretty wierd stories to tell as i do with my void states of cons' , but there you go , thats what you get for sticking your neck waaay outside of time + space + thought forms .
One of the rewards of entering into this state is that by + by , after having been reawoken , so to spk , one will come back into the universal system in which he has his phys' manifestation by way of ''a moment point'' in the creation of that univ' sys' , which means that one will be aware of the spontaneous present of all of the multitudinous systems which belong to that univ' sys' , be they of dreaming realities , phys' materialisations or of the gods or pyramid gestalts associated with that sys' , this includes all of the realities in which Seth has his reality + more .
Again nonbeing IS NOT NONEXISTENCE , it is ''mediated'' by ATI , so that the indiv' beings , tho not aware of themselves and in a suspended + potential form , still yet exist in + as a part of ATI as divine fact .
This is the one + only reality of nonbeing , its quite magical really , the ultimate free lunch .
I've seen Eben's you tube production of his nde , pretty cool for a neurosurgeon but simply a 1st step into the greater reality of the soul . But what a breakthru for the scientific community if only they would listen . One's 1st time is always a little bit confusing tho always felt as a huge breakthru , which it is for any indiv' . A bit like sex really .
my best wishes little Bee , paul
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