anti social to social

[eyelive4ever2]

Past the age of 8 I didn't speak much. I had learned to be ashamed of being human or a child. Didn't make any friends. Didn't know how to speak of that raging mother and teachers and those invisible beings that spoke to me and through me. I was the wall flowers of all wall flowers. If I had been a boy I may have bought a gun to kill many people, just like in the news.
But I am female, so I have tried killing myself. War is no fun. I have read where 22 vets kill themselves everyday. I saw the DVD documentary that said more vets have killed themselves than have been killed in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That said, of course there is no such thing as death, so all those painful movies get to be seen for what they are: the games that eternal, powerful beings of energy and light play. Has to be this way. Once we find out that we are eternal energy, then we can reset these painful movies by creating fun movies. Supposed to be that easy. Just pluck out what you don't want and insert what you do want. I want to pluck out the terribly painful childhood I had and then go on by seeing it as a movie that I no longer have to create. I have learned through Seth books and physics info what I need to know so I don't need to be that wall flower child anymore. After attempting to do that, I see that I have the motivation to teach others without the impetus being overcoming pain. I can become social and learn to love others. This is the movie I want to create now. I don't have to see others as the ones that did not rescue me for years and years and years. I don't have to get revenge in any way because these are my movies I am creating--that I must take responsibility for.
But........I AM having revenge in a way. I could find no one to talk to about my excitement surrounding Seth books, etc. so I have become so slow now that I hurt every day. I could not be that super excited, fun, strong person that I was reading these books, so I changed. Who could I tell that I had seen a hologram? Who could I tell that wanted to hear of my experiences with feeling energy flow through me, healing myself so fast that I was totally elated? Nobody even knew that they could learn to heal themselves really fast, so my talk was craziness. And still is.
Have not attracted a man, a lover, a co healer to travel the world with me teaching that there is no such thing as death. I thought that no matter where I was I would attract what I need to be happy in my life. Maybe I didn't know what success looked like. Maybe I was still so anti social that I still couldn't talk.
But now I have found quantum physics and know that metaphysical books are describing physics. Prayer is describing physics. It has always been physics that we are all pulsating perfection in the moment, right along with everything else. The point of power is in the present. Remember Seth saying that buildings are solidified emotional states? Everything is being created constantly and it is physics. The whole time. Energy vibrates and pulsates today, not tomorrow, not yesterday. So what did those physicists know and when did they know it?
Bohm spoke of our nonlocal reality, our place of oneness where separation is not known. Could this be the place where the electrons are vibrating as standing waves? I believe he spoke of the implicate order and the explicate order. The implicate being the one where the Source is--the source of our information. He wrote books and thought that this subject was of extreme importance as far as stopping wars along with all the other strife being created over the illusions of solidity and separation.
Einstein said E=MC squared.  Energy equals energy. Mass is energy. We are energy.
Seth speaks of God's emanations as being the air that we breathe. Imagine that. We are breathing this Creatures body constantly. The wind is when these emanations move. Our Source, the source of our purposes we breathe and eat and move with. Wow. The very information within us being our Source, our God. Being full of this Source, this makes everything God's body. Images within God's body.
So to not take revenge, but to take responsibility for this life, I must teach what I have found out. I must give books away and I must wish the best for everybody. I must give away lottery tickets. I must try to help others and in this way I become lighter and lighter and feel more of the energy beings that I attract to me. I become a lightbody, a fifth dimensional being able to transform between realities. In this way my pains will go away for ever and I may just disappear.

[Deb]

I want to pluck out the terribly painful childhood I had and then go on by seeing it as a movie that I no longer have to create.

Eyelive, I'm so sorry your childhood was so horrendous. Mine was pretty miserable too, I could relate to Jane's childhood after reading what her mother was like. It sounds like yours was similar, times 10. I was so happy to leave home as a teen. I felt that I was free for the first time in my life and never looked back. Seth says we choose our parents & life circumstances, so I have had to consider that and question what I learned from that experience. And what the hell was I thinking?

I've always seen myself as a late bloomer because of my childhood, by at least a decade. A small price for freedom. My motto is better late than never. I know it sounds corny, but for me it's true.

You probably know the Seth materials better than the rest of us on this cozy-but-charming little forum. I've only read a few books, but Seth does talk in a few places about how we are not defined by our past, our power is in the present and we can actually change our past. That concept has always captured my imagination. I'm so caught up in linear time that I have a hard time seeing it. But I try to conceptualize revisiting my past, not just my childhood, and changing the events — of course, only the unpleasant ones. But will I even know if I have changed anything? Would they not become my new memories? Doesn't seem fair.

I can become social and learn to love others. This is the movie I want to create now.

Yes, that's along the same lines I what I was saying above. Write your own story. Or, re-write your own story. And try to look, always, for the silver lining. Why not?

I could find no one to talk to about my excitement surrounding Seth books, etc. so I have become so slow now that I hurt every day.

We all know that feeling. We are from different parts of the USA, different parts of the world, and feel few and far between. That's why I created this forum. There are other forums (not many), but some of them are so large and impersonal that I wanted to create a place where we could meet like minds and not feel like we've fallen through the cracks. We can all learn together, express ourselves and not feel like outsiders because we don't buy into the official line of consciousness. This is a safe place. Talk about what you've learned from Seth, we are your audience.

So to not take revenge, but to take responsibility for this life, I must teach what I have found out.

Yes, yes, yes! Teach! There is no need for revenge. We know what we know and can't judge the uninitiated, as we also don't want to be judged by them. Rise above the crowd. We are all connected in the fabric of this life, all in different stages of awareness and learning. Teach those who want to learn.

I must try to help others and in this way I become lighter and lighter and feel more of the energy beings that I attract to me.

Life can be great and yes the lighter you become, well, like attracts like. You can be a great asset and raise the level of consciousness of humanity. I'm not just blowing smoke here, I've seen it happen personally and it's so constructive and rewarding. Don't ever give up, you have a job to do. If you want to pursue it.

[Deb]

But I try to conceptualize revisiting my past, not just my childhood, and changing the events — of course, only the unpleasant ones. But will I even know if I have changed anything? Would they not become my new memories? Doesn't seem fair.

eyelive4ever2, I was up in the middle of the night reading The Unknown Reality Vol. 1 and came across this bit of Seth that made me think about you, and what we were talking about here (it kind of answers my own question):

"On the other hand, as I have told you, you change your past continually. It does not appear to change to you, for you change with it... You alter your future in the same manner.  In such cases it is necessary that the correct channel of probable events be perceived--correct meaning the channel which shall be ultimately chosen [for actualization by the subject]."  Ses. 681 footnotes, pg. 36.

Kind of takes the fun out of it huh?

[Toronto Sethian]

I have healed full-blown AIDS (4 yrs. ago), addictions, anxiety disorder, and chronic depression.

One strong desire has more energy that than necessary to power a rocket to the moon and back.  We are dealing with immense energies and learning can be slow of necessity.

In vols. 5 & 6 of the Personal Sessions (when Jane was desperate enough to not block Seth's comments regarding her painful past), Seth advocated a "natural therapy" for dealing with painful emotional childhood stuff.  DO NOT go looking within the self for what is wrong; rather, look within asking for healing.  (You can ask for and get help from your entity, those who have loved you now and in other lives, your probable selves, your counterparts, your incarnational selves, your inner self and the "tender presences" that watch outside physical reality, ready to help when we ask and are open to such.

I used therapy ideas plus Seth's--the combination works, as a multidimensional psychological approach, of course, is needed by we multidimensional beings.

Unfinished emotional business richochets around the body and our being.  I had to go back to many childhood violations--the ones that came up when I did this healing work.  I couldn't deal with them as a child and have had to do so as an adult.  I have had to embrace painful memories--they, associatively, lead to other feelings and thoughts and eventually to my understanding of the beliefs in play, still, which lead to the painful feelings leaving for good.

I've developed a nuanced, sethian approach as to how I do these healing sessions (entering light trance, assuring the ego, etc.), all based directly on Seth's ideas.  It would be a lot to type.

I am, however, open to having a Skype phone conversation at least once to discuss specifics if interested.

 

[Deb]

I have healed full-blown AIDS (4 yrs. ago), addictions, anxiety disorder, and chronic depression.

Applying Seths' Concepts: So you are one who has figured out how to walk the talk... what an inspiration! I make proof for myself of the truth of Seth's teachings, but in small ways. Yet the results are there and I recognize them. One strong desire... for sure. Your healing experiences are major accomplishments.

Seth advocated a "natural therapy" for dealing with painful emotional childhood stuff.  DO NOT go looking within the self for what is wrong;

Rick Stack touched on this once in the intensive, I need to pull out my notes to find what he said. It just makes so much sense to focus on what's right--you get what you focus upon.

I've developed a nuanced, sethian approach as to how I do these healing sessions (entering light trance, assuring the ego, etc.), all based directly on Seth's ideas.  It would be a lot to type.

You could reach and help a lot of people if some day you do decide to write and share. This forum is fairly small right now, but eventually people will be drawn to this place and will learn from us all. From our personal experiences. You transmit a feeling of wisdom and calmness in your writing.

Feel free to start your own topics any where in the forum. I keep adding new boards as I get new ideas and learn more how to use this forum software. And a big THANK YOU for posting! 

[Toronto Sethian]

Thank you very much for your lovely comments. 

With your encouragement, I will write more.  I am digesting the question at hand and letting it percolate through the levels of my being.  It's a complex, multidimensional answer, of course, and I am trying to figure out how best to communicate my understanding and sethian approaches in specific detail.

Stay tuned.  Am working on it!

[Toronto Sethian]

An earlier post I wrote elsewhere:

In my experiences with the body, pain is manifested physically in a symbolic way when it is not dealt with emotionally--"richocheting" around the body, as Seth said. As Seth said, "You live in a symbolic reality". There is a meditative technique where you concentrate upon the painful element--works for the body, too. Very hard to do (gets easier with practice). I asked for insights and images and over time material bubbled up; as I deal with this, the body pain is releasing.

Same with crying--initially, I just felt the overwhelming sad feelings. Over time, I realized that I was triggered almost instantaneously (almost too fast to follow consciously)--I saw something which was associated to something in my past which brought up feelings I was not aware of the intensity of. The indirect process was hard to perceive, initially. Beneath this externalization of pain (crying), I always find the deeper feelings/experiences it represents within--a touchstone of sorts.

These externalizations are not random; rather, they are the path to healing if trusted and followed. They give direct feedback (and how) and are like a barometer of success, telling us where we are in dealing with the problem/challenge/opportunity, to use Seth's words.

Seth talks about a "natural therapy" that we have access to (in Vols. 5 and 6 of the Personal Sessions). It's unique material in the Seth Material as Seth tried ever harder to help Jane. In doing so, Seth gives strong direction in accessing the healing within. Powerful stuff. Seth does repeat over and over that you can't solve a problem by concentrating upon the problem; the only way to create a solution is to concentrate upon that. Seth does say do not look for what is wrong within the self.

I found that doing inner probings, I looked to express and uncover feelings, to welcome them, actually. What IS wrong came up in a natural, therapeutic way; but I did not have to look for what was wrong, nor is that the right approach, as we have talked about. There is a key difference. What came up came up in bits and pieces as I could digest and integrate them.
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[happilymarried]

@Deb, do you have contact of Toronto Sethian? I'm working on my childhood as well. I thought it's pretty healed, but perhaps it's still need to work on.

Thank you!

[Deb]

@Deb, do you have contact of Toronto Sethian?

No, sorry, he left the forum years ago.

[Doro]

Rick Stack touched on this once in the intensive, I need to pull out my notes to find what he said. It just makes so much sense to focus on what's right--you get what you focus upon.

[/quote]

Hi Deb

did you find anything about the Rick Stack writings? Or is it in another topic?
I'm actually working on that and found this post....

Doro

[Bora137]

Toronto Sethian did some good work. In Bach remedies the view is the same of physical illness - they are just signposts to imbalances in the personality. The physical vehicle acts as a canvas to highlight interference in the energy field of the person. Upon the body this negative energy creates diseases and illness as a red warning flag to the personality that it needs to change - give up fear, hate, anger, need to control - once these negative aspects are removed the freed up energy is used to repair the body. Where the Bach remedies come in is that the plant (often the flower of the plant) contains an energy that is opposite to the negative energy the personality is producing through the negative belief/aspect. Eg in the Bach system holly is the opposite energy to anger. So in taking holly the personality is opening an energy pathway towards forgiveness rather than anger. I have found great benefit using these and would like to combine with Toronto Sethian's methods so I will read the source Seth material he refers to.

[strangerthings]

@Deb, do you have contact of Toronto Sethian? I'm working on my childhood as well. I thought it's pretty healed, but perhaps it's still need to work on.

Thank you!

Here is an exercise to do if you want to .....

https://archive.org/details/clearing-hucha-heavy-energy-to-change-your-personal-history

Also I use .... Byron Katie judge your neighbor worksheet (thework.com)

Seth also has an excellent exercise very very similar to the first one I linked...its called....something like suns stars and entity and love ... ? You send love in a special way to anything or anyone (younger self)etc

Plus there are a gob of exercises in the compilation on past present future and probable selves (younger selves) and rewriting your past

Blessings

[Doro]

Toronto Sethian did some good work. In Bach remedies the view is the same of physical illness - they are just signposts to imbalances in the personality. The physical vehicle acts as a canvas to highlight interference in the energy field of the person. Upon the body this negative energy creates diseases and illness as a red warning flag to the personality that it needs to change - give up fear, hate, anger, need to control - once these negative aspects are removed the freed up energy is used to repair the body. Where the Bach remedies come in is that the plant (often the flower of the plant) contains an energy that is opposite to the negative energy the personality is producing through the negative belief/aspect. Eg in the Bach system holly is the opposite energy to anger. So in taking holly the personality is opening an energy pathway towards forgiveness rather than anger. I have found great benefit using these and would like to combine with Toronto Sethian's methods so I will read the source Seth material he refers to.

I remember using the Bach remedies always for my children when they were young. I too used to have the rescue remedy always with me for little accidents. And for our cats too bevor and after visits to the vet...
I really should be looking into it again for myself...

Thanks
Doro