The enlightened existence (are we there yet? nope)

[inavalan]

"The individual either exists for the sake of the society, or the society exists for the sake of the individual. So it seems. Either road, however, brings its own difficulties. An enlightened position would be somewhat different, for a reasonably free individual will automatically want to aid his fellow man, and you will have a society of individuals fully functioning, and that would mean you would have fully functioning social organizations.

Religious concepts that stress obedience over expression can also bring about civic disorder."

—TPS5 Deleted Session November 22, 1978

As we currently see promoted by the Western "democracies", and historically by the socialist / communist attempts, by the "scientific" establishment too, "obedience over expression" isn't promoted only by religions. I would add here this whole social pressure to be a "good person" the way others decided to be "right" ("cancel" culture, mob culture).

[Deb]

"obedience over expression" isn't promoted only by religions

I agree. Humans can be an unruly bunch which would be counterproductive (thinking profit and control here) to not only religions, but governments and branches of governments. Yeah, cancel culture, the new version of the old punishment of shunning. Still works. Although sometimes it backfires too.