Early Man and Ancient Civilizations

Started by jbseth, June 18, 2020, 10:54:08 AM

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Hi All,

I recently rediscovered some interesting timeframes for events that Seth has given in his information. This has to do with the timeframes of when early man may have existed and the timeframes of when the early civilizations, like the Lumanians, may have existed.

This is definitely NOT a post about a situation where Seth's ideas are validated by science. Instead, this is a post about a situation where Seth ideas and science very much don't agree.

In regards to both the evolution of life on earth and the evolution of early man, science and Seth view things very differently.  As I understand it, in regards to the evolution of life on earth, science seems to think that life evolved over perhaps the last 2 billion years. At some point in the very distance past, perhaps 2 billion years ago, the first lifeforms took shape, perhaps in the form of single celled bacteria. Then, over the next 1.5 billion years, these single celled organisms formed into multicellular organisms.  Then, from this early sea life, 500 million years ago, over time, fish, then amphibians, the reptiles, then mammals and finally man evolved. 

Along these lines, as I understand it, science generally considers that perhaps 6 to 8 million years ago, man and apes evolved separately from a common ancestor.


Thus, from this scientific standpoint, early man must be no more that 6-8 million years old and if man had any advanced civilizations, in the past, such as the Atlantis legend, then these civilizations must have all occurred within the last 6 to 8 million years.

However, Seth gives us a very different story. In DEaVF1, Seth tells us that all species initially had pseudoforms, or dream bodies. He also tells us that various species woke up (became physical) at different times and so for a while the earth had a mixture of species with dream bodies and species that had physical bodies. Along with this, Seth tells us that whether physical or not, these forms were complete in themselves (fish were fish and birds were birds). He also tells us that there were "also" various kinds of man-animals and animal-man species.  Seth tells us all of this in DEaVF1, Ch2, S887.   

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Along with this, Seth gives us a couple of clues in UR1, about when, in our timeframe, these events that he's mentioned may have occurred.  In UR1, Section 2, S689, Seth seems to be telling us that these man-animal and animal man species existed from 30 to 50 million years ago.

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Then in UR1, Section 2, S689, Seth tells us that early man existed even before this time.

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When Seth talks about early man, it appears that he's definitely not talking about man in the last 6-8 million years. He's talking about man who's been around for at least 30 million years, and possible quite a bit longer.

When Seth talks about the 3 advanced civilizations that existed before the time of Atlantis, such as Lumania, he may not be talking about civilizations, that existed, sometime in the last 100,000 years or event in the last 6 to 8 million years. Instead, he might be talking about civilizations that existed a really long time ago such as perhaps tens, or perhaps even hundreds, of millions of years ago.

Seth did tell us that, at the time of the Lumanians, the land masses were different.


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""Next I got that Plato picked up the Atlantis material himself, psychically — he didn't get it the way he said he did. I never ask Seth about Atlantis; I'm afraid the cultish ideas connected with it turned me off long ago."
[...] B.C.] described how the fabled island continent of Atlantis sank beneath the ocean west of the Pillars of Hercules — the Strait of Gibraltar — some 12,000 years previously. Looking backward in time, Plato heard the story of Atlantis from his maternal uncle, Critias the Younger, who was told about it by his father, Critias the Elder, who heard about it through the works of the Athenian statesman and lawgiver, Solon, who had lived two centuries earlier [c. 640–559 B.C.]; and Solon got the story of Atlantis from Egyptian priests, who got it from ———? Whether Atlantis actually existed in historic terms, its location, the time of its suggested demise, and so forth, are of course points strongly contested by scholars, scientists, and others."

I think the approximately 10,500-12000 year number given in this context along with the surprising consistency in the channelings of Edgar Cayce and the Lawofone.info make me think that trying to push it back further is a stretch. It's surprising but only somewhat to read so much written about these man-animals. Edgar Cayce and Lawofone speak of them pretty and they are depicted in the Egyptian drawings.  Edgar Cayce says that they walked among people and Lawofone describes how humans encountered entities that were only half materialized from the waist or legs in half because we weren't evolved enough to perceive them entirely so they took that unusual animal form.

These three "channels" all place a lot of significance on #1 Egypt, Atlantis, and Sumeria.

this video has information about it


10.15 Questioner: was wondering about the advent of the civilization called Atlantis and Lemuria, the way these civilizations occurred, and where did they come from [inaudible] civilizations?
Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of this work. The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities.

They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago. It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere's tectonic plates through no action of their own. They set out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you have come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. Like the other incarnates of this cycle, they came from elsewhere. However, these particular entities were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions. This planet was from the galaxy Deneb.

The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately three one oh oh oh, thirty-one thousand [31,000] years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately one five oh oh oh, fifteen thousand [15,000] of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative.

Approximately eleven thousand [11,000] of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to leave the density by means of disintegration of the body. The second and most devastating of the conflicts occurred approximately one oh eight two one, ten thousand eight hundred twenty-one [10,821] years in the past according to your illusion. This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey.


"(10:59.) Give us a moment ... (Jane, in trance, lit a cigarette. ) Your ideas of Atlantis are partially composed of future memories. They are psychic yearnings toward the ideal civilization — patterns within the psyche, even as each fetus has within it the picture of its own most ideal fulfillment toward which it grows.

Atlantis is a land that you want to inhabit, appearing in your literature, your dreams, and your fantasies, serving as an impetus for development. It is real and valid. In your terms it is not "yet" physical fact, but in some ways it is more real than any physical fact, for it is a psychic blueprint.

It carries also, however, the imprint of your fears, for the tales say that Atlantis was destroyed. You place it in your past while it exists in your future. Not the destruction alone, but the entire pattern seen through the framework of your beliefs. Beside this, however, many civilizations have come and gone in somewhat the same manner, and the "myth" [of Atlantis] is based somewhat then on physical fact in your terms.

The species then moves into its own new houses. Atlantis is the story of a future probability projected backward into an apparent past."

—UR2 Section 6: Session 742 April 16, 1975
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