~Speaking of Seth~

Hi All,

I saw this interesting article on Bing this morning about the first British Astronaut. Apparently, she says that "aliens definitely exist" and furthermore, they may be here amongst us.

I'm wondering if she's just speculating here from the fact that the universe is so large or if she's trying to let on, that she's actually had some physical proof, without getting fired.  Hmmmm.

Here's the article.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=Helen+Sharman+aliens&filters=tnTID%3a%22ABB9824C-A2F9-4a2c-A251-6679812842CE%22+tnVersion%3a%223338482%22+segment%3a%22popularnow.carousel%22+tnCol%3a%224%22+tnOrder%3a%22f3195942-7852-41b2-b511-c7362fc8a5b6%22&efirst=2&FORM=HPNN01


-jbseth

In the article it sounds like she has proof but then essentially says "how can there not be?" which to me is speculation.

But you might want to look into this book I started reading yesterday. I got the audio for free thru the library and the Hoopla App, and so far I'm loving it. The authors are really making me think, view "paranormal" from a different perspective. Their premise is that science only believes things that are physical exist and it's the old "if it doesn't fit, throw it out" process (the same as for scientific and medical studies and statistics). They feel that by considering a wide range of incidents that are considered paranormal (UFOs, ghosts, telepathy, things that disappear and reappear, creature sightings, objects that move on their own and more) we can find a better understanding of them. In the beginning Kripal also talks about ancient drawings and tales that a lot of people now think were about aliens and UFOs -- that we should consider the perspective and mindsets of the times.

"If we collect enough seemingly anecdotal or anomalous experiences from different times and places and place them together on a fair comparative table, we can quickly see that these reports are neither anecdotal nor anomalous. We can see that they are actually common occurrences in the species. They are part of our world. They are 'natural,' as we say, even if each of them is also rare with respect to any particular individual, and all of them are 'super,' that is, beyond how we presently understand how this natural world works."

https://smile.amazon.com/Super-Natural-Why-Unexplained-Real/dp/0143109502/ref=pd_ybh_a_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DQ7G9ABFY6G1PWQQA5WZ

I want to also pick up the print version so I can take notes. I hope the rest of the book is as good as what I've read so far, only a few chapters. I was hooked from the first paragraph.

The Top Review by Shashank Singh gives a very in-depth review of what's in the book.

There was a comment in the book that I need to track down: some US official said the one thing he regrets not doing before he retired or left office was releasing official information on UFOs.

Hi Deb,

Exactly.

I mean how many books like Anita Moorjani's do we need to see, before we start to think that maybe there's something to NDE's and life after death.

How many books by people like Robert Monroe do we need to see before we start to think that maybe there's something to these OOBE's.

How many books by people like John Edward, Alison DuBios and Judith Orloff do we need to see before we start to think that maybe there's something to these claims of Mediumship, Survival Personalities and life after death.

How many books like "Soul Survivor" and those by Michael Newton and Brian Weiss on past life regression, do we need to see before we start to think that maybe there's something to these claims of reincarnation and living past life's.

And I could go on and on here, but I know you know what I'm talking about; and I purposely didn't even mention anything about "Seth".



In Chapter 14 of TMA, Seth does say something like, what Science can't prove, doesn't exist (at least it doesn't exist in those to take a scientific perspective of how things work).

This, I think, is the problem with scientific conclusions.

It sounds like a really interesting book. 


-jbseth

OK, got to listen to a few more chapters in the book and I'm still all in.

The US official I mentioned above was John Podesta, mentioned again in chapter 5 of the book.

https://news.yahoo.com/outgoing-obama-adviser-john-podesta-s-biggest-regret-of-2014--keeping-america-in-the-dark-about-ufos-234149498.html

While I'd read part of a book Kripal wrote in the past and could not get into it, to me he's the clear headed winner in this one. This quote was repeated in the book today (Chapter 5?) and I absolutely LOVE it:

"I do not think it is too much of a simplification to suggest that the entire history of religions can be summed up this way: strange super beings from the sky come down to interact with human beings, provide them with cultural, technological, legal, and ethical knowledge, guide them, scare the crap out of them, demand their submission and obedience, have sex with them (often forcefully), and generally terrorize, awe, baffle, inspire, and use them."

Lol. That sums up religion for me.

Deb, jbseth, I read that Strieber/Kripal book when it came out. Currently almost done with Strieber's A New World, which is even better. I have read several books by Strieber, including his Communion series. He has a nuanced, complex view of what he calls the visitors and claims significant personal experiences.

Hi LarryH, Hi Deb,

LarryH, I read "Communion" many years ago and really enjoyed it. How do you like his new book, "A New World", it sounds really interesting?


Deb, I really laughed with your comments about religion.   

The comments, "scare the crap out of them, demand their submission and obedience, have sex with them (often forcefully), and generally terrorize, awe, baffle, inspire, and use them.", sounds a lot like some of those other religions that didn't necessarily start with alien contact.


-jbseth

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How do you like his new book, "A New World", it sounds really interesting?

I think it is one of his better books. Plenty of food for thought.