Coordinate points

Started by sethspeaks, July 03, 2016, 04:56:27 AM

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sethspeaks

Seth:
"These coordinate points - absolute, main, or subordinate - represent accumulations
or traces of pure energy, minute to an extreme if you are thinking in terms of size -
smaller than any particle of which your scientists know for example, but composed of
pure energy. And yet this energy must be activated. It is dormant until then - and it
cannot be activated physically"

Anyone have any experience with these coordinate points?

BethAnne

It's been awhile since I've read Seth so I googled it and found this.
http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/coordinatepoints.html#The_Subordinate_Points

I use this all the time using strong intent and symbols, geometry and color as tools to direct the flow.

sethspeaks

I think the subordinate coordinate points are positive geopathogenic zone.
I try to find them using a device that uses orgone accumulator / Wilhelm Reich / in another way.
I suppose the basic shape not as a tetrahedron, but as a pyramid.

BethAnne

And how do you use this? 
I also direct this flow with Music, hence the "Visualize with Music" thread.   :D

Deb

First off, hi sethspeaks, welcome to the forum! Now,

Quote from: sethspeaksAnyone have any experience with these coordinate points?

Are the coordinate points the same ones referred to in this old post? :

Quote from: Deb"There are four absolute coordinate points that intersect all realities.
These coordinate points also act as channels through which energy flows,
and as warps or invisible paths from one reality to another.
They also act as transformers, and provide much of the generating energy
that makes creation continuous in your terms." SS Ses. 524 (9:29)

There are a few more quotes in the old post, including one from The Scole Experiment, which also fascinates me.

I remember when I first about these coordinates in the Seth books, which really caught my attention because I'd read the Scole book first. The coordinates fascinate me because finding/seeing/feeling proof of them could be considered evidence (for me) of the mysteries we are still uncovering about our existence and reality. I think I've seen evidence of this myself, in my own back yard.

I'd love to be able to pinpoint some coordinates, if Seth ever gave specific information about them beyond mentioning some general geographical "areas." I relate the ley lines in England to them, and the energy vortices in Sedona, Arizona. I had a physical experience with that just a few years ago. A friend and I were hiking in Sedona and walked through an energy field at the same instant. It felt like a train rushing through our bodies. We could not repeat the experience though.

I'm sure there are many places around the world that the elders knew about and marked, as the ley lines were.

Can you tell me where your quote from Seth came from? I'd like to follow that further, maybe update my February post.


sethspeaks

Hi,
these are the same points, of course. My quote is from SS too.
Coordinate points is inside every room, for example. Many are, "vast in number" - session 523. Some are stronger, activated.
Can you tell me how include picture to replies?

Deb

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Quote from: sethspeaksMy quote is from SS too.

Thanks, I'll look for it.

To add pictures, click on Attachments and other options below the text box, click Choose File and find, on your computer, the image you want to attach. When you click Post it will be added at the bottom of your post. I'll attach a screen capture so you can see what I'm talking about.

There's a size limit but it's fairly generous. If you want to attach a file and it's too large, you can always email it to me and I can reduce the fie size for you & send it back to you, unless you have a way to do that yourself.


Sena

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Quote from: DebI'd love to be able to pinpoint some coordinates, if Seth ever gave specific information about them beyond mentioning some general geographical "areas." I relate the ley lines in England to them, and the energy vortices in Sedona, Arizona.
It may be that a number of "holy places" around the world are significant in this way. I had a strange psychic experience when visiting Jerusalem, and an instance of synchronicity when at Kataragama (a multi-religious sacred town) in Sri Lanka:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kataragama
http://www.kataragama.org/talltale.htm
QuoteLanka or Lemuria as some call it was a continent that was home to brilliant civilization of exceptional spiritual vitality, but which later catastrophically sank beneath the waters except for the small portion that is Sri Lanka today.

sethspeaks

Sri Lanka is certainly a beautiful place with lots of coordination points, but for me it is currently unavailable. Rather focus on coordination places in the place where I live.
Seth:
,,These are points, therefore, of concentrated energy. The subordinate points are far more common, and practically speaking, affect your daily concerns. There are better places than others to build houses or structures - points where health and vitality are strengthened, where, other things being equal, plants will grow and flourish and where all beneficial conditions seem to meet.
Some people can sense such neighborhoods instinctively. They occur within certain angles made by coordinate points. The points obviously are not themselves physical - that is, they are not visible, though they may be mathematically deduced. They are felt however, as intensified energy.
In a given room, plants will grow more effectively in a particular area than in other areas, providing that both areas contain such necessary requirements as light."
I also try to develop an instrument to measure these points - is seen on the picture - but the structure is not completely resolved.
So far, the most reliable method of determining is that the plants are growing better there. Carrying a flower pot can also be determined, but one must be careful - a flower may not like it.

Deb

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Quote from: SenaI had a strange psychic experience when visiting Jerusalem, and an instance of synchronicity when at Kataragama (a multi-religious sacred town) in Sri Lanka:

Care to share your experience Sena?

Quote from: sethspeaksIn a given room, plants will grow more effectively in a particular area than in other areas, providing that both areas contain such necessary requirements as light."

This is sort of where I was going with my comment about experiencing this first hand. I garden. But my gardening, especially since I've been living in my current home, has gone wild. I tend to start too many plants from seeds, mostly tomatoes, and end up giving a large amount of seedlings away during planting time. I've seen, over and over again, ALL others fail miserably with the plants I've given them, even my next-door neighbors. And yet somehow my garden usually produces prolifically regardless of anyone else's lack of success. To the point where I have to give away, sell or donate my produce. An inordinate amount.

Even before I lived in this location, my neighbor at my previous home made a comment one day while observing my garden/yard. She said to me, "I tell people you have a green thumb. But... ( a dreamy look on her face, faraway voice while saying this ) it goes beyond that..." Anyway, too long of an explanation of my observation of how these energy coordinates can affect living things. I don't have any extraordinary gardening techniques, other than maybe my beliefs as to how things will grow. And possibly an ability to subconsciously recognize coordinate areas.

Quote from: sethspeaksI also try to develop an instrument to measure these points - is seen on the picture - but the structure is not completely resolved.

I find this fascinating. How are accomplishing this instrument creation?
I used to be (still am, in my heart) a paranormal investigator. I owned (I think I may have sold it) an EMF meter that read natural electromagnetic energy. While I had some interesting readings/experiences with it inside supposedly haunted locations, and tested it throughout the inside of my home with things such as a microwave oven, electric outlets, human contact, etc., at the time it never occurred to me to take it outside for readings around my yard or other outdoor locations.




sethspeaks



Sena

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Some quotes from Seth Speaks (p. 71):

"Other kinds of consciousness coexist within the same "space" that your world inhabits. They do not perceive your physical objects, for their reality is composed of a different camouflage structure. You do not perceive them, and generally speaking they do not perceive you. This IS a general statement, however, for various points of your realities can and do coincide, so to speak. These points are not recognized as such, but they are points of what you would call double reality, containing great energy potential; coordinate points, indeed, where realities merge."

"These are points, then, of concentrated energy. The subordinate points are far more common, and practically speaking, affect your daily concerns."

"The concentrated energy points are activated by emotional intensities that are well within your normal range. You own emotions or feelings will activate these coordinates whether you know of them or not. Greater energy will therefore be added to the original thought or feeling, and its projection into physical matter accelerated. Now this applies regardless of the nature of the feeling; only its intensity is involved here.

These points are like invisible power plants, in other words, activated when any emotional feeling or thought of sufficient intensity comes into contact. The points themselves intensify whatever activates them in a quite neutral manner."

http://amasci.com/freenrg/pyrexp1.html

Also in Seth Speaks, Seth mentioned certain areas of USA which are "neighborhoods of excellent coordinate activity": The West Coast, portions of the East Coast, Utah, the Great Lakes, the Chicago area, the Minneapolis area, and some other southwestern areas. "Materialization will quickly appear, and potentials therefore for both constructive and destructive elements are high."

sethspeaks

People have been searching for geopathic zones since time immemorial.
But Coordinate points are some geopositive zones.

Sena

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Quote from: sethspeaks
But Coordinate points are some geopositive zones.
sethspeaks, these points could be positive or negative depending on one's emotions. These are points where emotions are translated into physical reality with comparative ease.

Michael Sternbach

Quote from: Sena
Quote from: sethspeaks
But Coordinate points are some geopositive zones.
sethspeaks, these points could be positive or negative depending on one's emotions. These are points where emotions are translated into physical reality with comparative ease.

Yes, definitely. They are simply points where different levels of reality are connected to one another.

I believe that, on a personal level, the chakras are coordination points too. Via them, the different subtle bodies (which also correspond with different layers of reality) are interconnected, all the way down to the physical body.

sethspeaks

Seth has designated coordinating points for where plants are doing better. Geopathic zones are places where plants fail. That's why I wrote a geopositive.
As far as chakras are concerned, many gurus consider it to be the peak of knowledge when energy flows through them. Seth sees it as natural. Jane proposed a visit to the chiropractor and other things about that.
I cannot write quotes, all of them is from Seth speaks. I'm on holiday in Greece and I do not have the necessary informations. So next week. If it will be interested.

Deb

Quote from: Sena
Coordinate points are real. They are NOT illusion or camouflage.

Yes, that's my feeling too. In my mind, coordination points are a part of the underlying reality behind the camouflage. But they are not something readily observable to us in F1, at least not with our outer senses. Yet we do see the effects.

"Some people can sense such neighborhoods instinctively. They occur within certain angles made by coordinate points. The points obviously are not themselves physical — that is, they are not visible, though they may be mathematically deduced. They are felt, however, as intensified energy." SS s. 524

I wonder if the supposed energy vortices in Sedona are a part of these coordinates? They actually have maps of the spots. I had a physically-felt energy experience there a few years ago together with a friend. It was like a gust of energy passed through us at the same exact instant. We retraced our steps but couldn't get it to happen again.

Quote from: Sena
Also in Seth Speaks, Seth mentioned certain areas of USA which are "neighborhoods of excellent coordinate activity"

This makes sense to me, the areas that are the most populated and active would be the most energetically charged. People would be drawn to that. And the intense energy would enable rapid manifestations, for better or for worse.

"These coordinate points act as channels through which energy flows, and as warps or invisible paths from one reality to another. They also act as transformers, and provide much of the generating energy that makes creation continuous in your terms ... These points impinge upon what you call time, as well as space ..."
—NoPR Chapter 15: Session 657, April 18, 1973

Quote from: Michael Sternbach
I believe that, on a personal level, the chakras are coordination points too.

Wow, good point. That also makes sense to me.

Quote from: sethspeaks
I cannot write quotes, all of them is from Seth speaks. I'm on holiday in Greece and I do not have the necessary informations. So next week. If it will be interested.

Ooooo, Greece! Beautiful, have fun! Someday I'll get to see it.

No worries about the exact quotes, if we want to track them down we can do so on http://search.sethtalks.com/. SS is one of the indexed books. OK, I peeked, it's ses. 524:

"These are points, therefore, of concentrated energy. The subordinate points are far more common, and practically speaking, affect your daily concerns. There are better places than others to build houses or structures — points where health and vitality are strengthened, where, other things being equal, plants will grow and flourish and where all beneficial conditions seem to meet."

"(10:23.) In a given room, plants will grow more effectively in a particular area than in other areas, providing that both areas contain such necessary requirements as light. All of your space is permeated by these coordination points, so that certain invisible angles are formed."

—SS Chapter 5: Session 524, April 20, 1970


super_eggy

Quote from: sethspeaks on July 05, 2016, 03:45:38 AMSri Lanka is certainly a beautiful place with lots of coordination points, but for me it is currently unavailable. Rather focus on coordination places in the place where I live.
Seth:
,,These are points, therefore, of concentrated energy. The subordinate points are far more common, and practically speaking, affect your daily concerns. There are better places than others to build houses or structures - points where health and vitality are strengthened, where, other things being equal, plants will grow and flourish and where all beneficial conditions seem to meet.
Some people can sense such neighborhoods instinctively. They occur within certain angles made by coordinate points. The points obviously are not themselves physical - that is, they are not visible, though they may be mathematically deduced. They are felt however, as intensified energy.
In a given room, plants will grow more effectively in a particular area than in other areas, providing that both areas contain such necessary requirements as light."
I also try to develop an instrument to measure these points - is seen on the picture - but the structure is not completely resolved.
So far, the most reliable method of determining is that the plants are growing better there. Carrying a flower pot can also be determined, but one must be careful - a flower may not like it.


Hello,

Could you describe the instrument you made or what criteria you are trying to measure?

Thank you