Creating one's own reality after death (Monsignor Hugh Benson)

Started by Sena, October 19, 2017, 06:21:46 AM

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Sena

If it is possible to create one's own reality while leading a human life on Earth, it should be possible to do the same after death. I am not sure whether this is described very clearly in Seth, so I am posting here an extract from a book which was written by Anthony Borgia who claimed to channel the spirit of Monsignor Hugh Benson. Hugh Benson died in 1914, and Borgia's books were published about 20 years later:

http://www.thenewearth.org/LifeAfterDeath.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hugh_Benson

Here is a quote from one of his books:

"Creeds, therefore, do not form any part of the world of Spirit, but because people take with them all their characteristics into the Spirit world, the fervid adherents to any particular religious body will continue to practise their religion in the Spirit world until such time as their minds become Spiritually enlightened. We have here, so my friend informed me - I have since seen them for myself - whole communities still exercising their old Earthly religion. The bigotry and prejudices are all there, religiously speaking. They do no harm, except to themselves, since such matters are confined to themselves. There is no such thing as making converts here!

Such being the case, then, I supposed that our own religion was fully represented here. Indeed, it was! The same ceremonies, the same ritual, the same old beliefs, all are being carried on with the same misplaced zeal—in churches erected for the purpose. The members of these communities know that they have passed on, and they think that part of their heavenly reward is to continue with their man-made forms of worship. So they will continue until such time as a Spiritual awakening takes place. Pressure is never brought to bear upon these souls; their mental resurrection must come from within themselves. When it does come they will taste for the first time the real meaning of freedom."

So it would seem that Roman Catholics create for themselves an R.C. heaven, while presumably Muslims would create a Muslim heaven.

Deb

This is really interesting to me, thanks for the links.

Seth does mention creating our reality "after death" -- in F2, where we aren't impeded by the lag time we have on Earth. But like all other topics, the information tends to be spread around in the various Seth books. I'm fascinated by Seth's mention of his 14th century study that is his "mental production." He occasionally takes some sort of "physical form in order to sit at the desk and look out the window at the countryside."

He does talk about the death experience too, such as in Seth Speaks (example, taking religious beliefs along and eventually waken to the "true situation," the need for after-death guides). For instance: https://realtalkworld.com/2011/07/22/seth-on-after-death/ and https://realtalkworld.com/2012/12/20/seth-as-an-after-death-guide/. But Seth may not delve as deeply on the topic the way the Borgia book does.

The Michael Newton Journey of Souls book talks about souls after death needing time to heal and recover from their earth experience. He also talks of a sort of journey a soul takes to get to its personal destination. The description reminded me of Seth's explanation of the symbolic River Styx.

Naturally there's a lot of information in the After Death Journal, which I haven't finished reading yet, but that's not a Seth-dictated book.

I'm going to check out the Life After Death book, I'd like to hear what it has to say compared to what I've read by various authors. That whole quote about religion, religious communities, bigotry, prejudice, etc. is surprising to me. So apparently in F2 we continue to create individually and en masse.

Sena

Quote from: Deb
That whole quote about religion, religious communities, bigotry, prejudice, etc. is surprising to me. So apparently in F2 we continue to create individually and en masse.
Deb, yes it does appear that we create both individually and en masse. The Anthony Borgia/Hugh Benson books are different to the Seth books in that they are told as a continuous story, whereas Seth provides more intellectual analysis with terminology like Framework 1 and 2.

Zron

You create your reality always. It doesn't matter what "reality" you find yourself in.
If you are deeply immersed into any particular " belief structure " you will experience conditions after death that meet those beliefs, at least for awhile. At some point you will realize that you are limiting yourself. Or maybe you'll just get bored.
One thing to remember is that everyone has a unique experience.
Your beliefs are the root.
Your thoughts are the plant.
Your reality is the fruit.

Sena

Quote from: Zron
One thing to remember is that everyone has a unique experience.
Zron, thanks for pointing that out. Must re-read Jane's book on William James.
Here are quotes from that book:
"Nowhere have I encountered the furnishings of a conventional heaven, or glimpsed the face of God."
(p.162 in my copy, date March 31, 1977)
"The living often equate death with darkness..... Yet here I am surrounded by illumination that emanates from everywhere - colors more sparkling than any I knew on earth, a light of enchanting varieties, not even or monotonous but seemngly alive in its own fashion..... I have not called this knowing light an entity, in terms of personhood. Yet I am sure it possesses a psychology far divorced from any with which I have ever been acquainted; that it knows of my curiosity and examination; and is not annoyed, but invites it."
(p.164)

Deb

Quote from: James Book
The living often equate death with darkness..... Yet here I am surrounded by illumination that emanates from everywhere - colors more sparkling than any I knew on earth, a light of enchanting varieties, not even or monotonous but seemngly alive in its own fashion.....

This reminded me of this quote from the Benson book:

"I had observed that there did not appear to be what we should commonly call shade beneath the trees, and yet there did not appear to be any glaring sun. It seemed to be that there was a radiance of light that penetrated into every corner, and yet there was no hint of flatness. My friend told me that all light proceeded directly from the Giver of all light, and that this light was Divine life itself, and that it bathed and illumined the whole of the Spirit world where lived those who had eyes Spiritually to see."

Sena

Quote from: Deb
It seemed to be that there was a radiance of light that penetrated into every corner, and yet there was no hint of flatness.
Deb, that's a remarkable coincidence of observations. It would seem unlikely that Jane had read the Benson book, and in any case Jane's wording is quite different although seeming to describe the same phenomenon.