~Speaking of Seth~

Hi All,

Occasionally, I've discovered that in some of Jane's books, she introduces some new ideas. This includes such things as "Focus Point", "Source Selves", "Aspects", and her "Library" for example. Some of these, are ideas that Seth hadn't previously discussed, and as a result of this, on occasion, I've wondered, whether Seth would have validated them?  Generally, I've assumed that if Jane introduced an idea that wasn't valid, such as, "reincarnation doesn't exist", then I think Seth would have brought this up to her attention, unless he missed it somehow.


Over the years however, I've discovered that in many places, throughout the various Seth books, Seth does mention and validate some of her ideas.


I discovered one of these today. This was one that I wasn't previously aware of. This one is Jane's idea about "Aspects", which she mentions in her book, "Adventures in Consciousness". Furthermore this discovery came about in an interesting, and almost synchronistic, way.


Yesterday, was Richard Bach's (the author of "Jonathan Livingston Seagull") birthday. Today I was looking through NOPR, to review what Rob, Jane and Seth had to say to and about Richard Bach. Richard visited Jane and Rob back in 1972, and Seth shared some information with him (see NOPR, Ch3, S618). Anyway, in talking to Richard, Seth says that we all have various "Aspects" of ourselves; see the quotes below. 


NOPR, Ch3, S618:

("Ruburt already has a head start on this, so I am not spoiling his fun. There are indeed 'aspects' of your own consciousness that operate in completely different environments. Environments, for example, that are not physical. There are aspects of you, therefore, that know many other kinds of information than those available to you at the conscious level now ..."

(Note that Seth endorsed Jane's theory of Aspects. She's begun a book on the subject. In it she will explore — among other things — the nature, validity, and sources of such personalities as Seth, and the "intrusion" of intuitional or revelatory material. Once again, see her Introduction.)


Thus, here we can see that Seth does validate Jane's concept of "Aspects".


Recently I also came across one in either UR1 or UR2, I believe, where Seth validates Janes "Library".

Does anyone else here know of any others?


- jbseth

Quote from: jbseth
I discovered one of these today. This was one that I wasn't previously aware of. This one is Jane's idea about "Aspects", which she mentions in her book, "Adventures in Consciousness". Furthermore this discovery came about in an interesting, and almost synchronistic, way.

jbseth, I came across this thread today when I searched the forum for "adventures". I though this quote from Jane's book interesting:

""Seth, Seth Two, Cyprus and even Seven are all As­pects, then, of one multidimensional entity. Because of my own abilities, I'm able to tune into these Aspects better than most
people, but they represent the 'components' of personality and the
portions of our being that exist outside of our three-dimensional
framework."
"Signs of these Aspects appear sometimes in 'normal'
behavior as uncharacteristic or odd moods or emotions; creative
productions, daydreams, and so forth. (They may sometimes be
picked up through use of a Ouija board where they will often be
interpreted as guides, etc. ) "
"As I bring these Aspects back through my psychologi­cal window, are they automatically personified by the rich stuff of
the psyche? What relationship does such a personification have
to the original Aspect it represents?"
" Our current concepts so limit our understanding of
ourselves that we, in turn, limit our own experience to fit. Any
communications or hints from Aspects then seem unnatural,
supernatural, or signs of mental disorder."
" Would a Seth, experiencing a Jane, think of her as a
lesser developed personality? Maybe. But just maybe, he'd think
of her as one with great potential, to be encouraged so that in
time terms he could emerge. He would be me in my present time,
developing abilities that would later let him be him. He would be
communicating with me in my time from my future— his present."
" Our greater consciousness or "source self" dips in and
out of time and has existences in other dimensions, showering
Aspects of itself out in all directions. These Aspects are alive,
active, but latent in each of us, where their abilities help form
the stuff of our own personalities. They aren't dominant here but
they are in their own realities, though perhaps in ways difficult
for us to understand.""

It seems to me that Jane's concept of Aspects is useful in understanding the Seth/Jane view on reincarnation. Suppose I have a dream in which I am a female person in the 16th century. According to the Buddhist concept, "I am" that 16th century person, I am responsible for any crime she may have committed, and I have to pay off her "karma".

According to the Seth/Jane view, I and that 16th century person are "Aspects" of the same entity. I am NOT that person as such, and I am not responsible for her karma.

Jane helpfully gives us a diagram of reincarnation:

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Quote from: Sena
It seems to me that Jane's concept of Aspects is useful in understanding the Seth/Jane view on reincarnation.

Hi Sena, Hi All,

In her book, "Adventures of Consciousness", what Jane said about the "Focus Personality", FP, does seem to be related to reincarnation.

In Chapter 10 Jane tells us that the Focus Personality is the conscious self. 

Then, in Diagram 6 of her book, which is the image that you attached in your post, at the center of each of the smaller circles it says FP. This represents the Focus Personalities.



On the other hand, what she said about "Aspects", doesn't seem to necessarily have anything do with reincarnation.

On the last page or so of Chapter 11, Jane says, the following:

"[...]  Again in my case, Seth, Seth Two, Seven, Cyprus and Helper might all be personifications of various Aspects of my source self, for instance; each Aspect independent in its own level of reality, while operating here in another fashion."


In the back of this book, Jane includes a glossary where she defines some of the terms that she uses in this book. This glossary includes the words Source Self, Focus Personality, Aspects and Aspect Selves.


- jbseth