~Speaking of Seth~

Hello everyone!

I am a new user here. I am here to discuss Seth teachings with people who have read his books.
In the book, "The Nature of Personal Reality" Seth shares a technique to alter the past events.
Does it actually physically change the past as we know it or just our interpretation of the past event?

For example, I want to change an event in my past where I never met a certain person.

Thanks for your help!

Hello and Welcome Kavyareddy2

Hi kavyareddy2, welcome to the forum.

Good question, we had a fairly lengthy discussion about this in the topic Changing the past: a story, so maybe there's something there for you. https://speakingofseth.com/index.php?msg=14613

Changing the past is probably one of the harder Seth concepts to grasp, because it involves simultaneous time (everything is happening in the now, and past, present and future are our impressions in this time-based reality), which is hard for most people to "know" on a deep level. Also if we DO change the past, would we even know we did? If an event no longer took place in the past, we'd probably have no memory of it. Or at best a foggy memory of "did that really happen, or was that a dream?" scenario. So if we change our past on a regular basis, as Seth says we do, it would be hard to have proof.

"I have told you that you can change the past. In doing so you change the self, by choosing from past experience those elements to which you shall and shall not react. This you can do."
—TPS1 Session 377 (Deleted) November 6, 1967

I don't know if you are aware there's a Seth search engine on the internet, but I always send people there because you can get a lot of information from a lot of different Seth books. https://findingseth.com/q/'changing+the+past'/

I decided to look at this Session 377 in the book, and there was some information I had not seen before. Here are some excerpts.

Quote from: SethRuburt has been adding to the strength of the negative influences of his past. The more he reacts to them the more throughly he convinces himself of their strength. His background was unfortunate. It was not as unfortunate as he supposes. Many of his most redeeming qualities and characteristics were formed by it.

This tells me Jane was actually reinforcing the negativity in her past by focusing on it, making it bigger than life. Just the opposite of what you should do if you want to change something.

Quote from: SethNow. You can change the past, and in do so change the present and the future. You can change the present, and in doing so change the past and the future. You can change the future, and in do so change the present and the past.

The exercises in the book Ruburt is reading [Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz] are excellent. With our added instruction they shall be even better. You will change yourself in the future by vital imagining today. You will put high expectations to work at once in this manner, and project a new image into tomorrow.

This projected image will of itself already alter the past and present. You will change your past, your reaction to it, by vividly imagining happy hours that you refused to focus upon. These pursuits in the present will automatically change the nature of the present.

I also have to consider unfortunate things that happen usually have a reason, such as Seth pointing out that Jane's redeeming qualities were a result of her difficult past. She learned something. Just a thought.

Hi Kavyareddy2,

Welcome to the forum.  

Seth talks about changing the past in several different places across his various books and sessions. In the spoilers below, I've listed some of the things that he's said about this topic (click on each of the spoilers below and they will open).

Some of us here use a kind of shorthand to define the location where Seth specifically talks about a topic in a specific Seth book, chapter and session number. For example, SS, Ch16, S566, refers to "Seth Speaks", Chapter 16, Session 566; TES1 = "The Early Sessions", Book 1, and DEaVF1 = Dreams, Evolution and Value Fulfillment, Book 1.


Not only does Seth strongly indicate that we can and do change our past in the first 3 spoilers below, he also gives us an example of this in the fourth spoiler in regards to how Rob's mother changed her past, after her husband (Rob's father) died.


Can people actually change their past?  My personal belief is Yes, they can, but there are some caveats that come along this, as Seth explains in the second spoiler below; others can choose to either accept or reject your version.


About 2 years ago, my sister and I were talking about an event that we both participated in together, many years ago when we were both teenagers. Surprisingly to both of us, her memory of the event and mine were very different, in some specific places. In some places they were completely incompatible. We were both completely surprised and stumped by this. Neither one of us has any health issues or memory problems that could account for this.

My only explanation for this, is that perhaps at some point, one of us or maybe both of us either changed our past, or changed our belief about what happened in the past (perhaps this is the same thing). For me, it's not only what Seth says here about changing your past, that makes me think that we can actually change our past, but it's also this personal experience that I had with my sister.

I've never actually consciously tried to change my past, but I suspect that it can be done. Largely, like a lot of the things that Seth says in NOPR "Nature of Personal Reality", about belief, I also suspect that belief plays heavily into this. That is, if you "don't" believe that you can do this, then you probably won't be able to.










-jbseth

Intriguing thread.  Thank you to jbseth for posting the links to Seth's comments on changing the past.  That work takes time and effort, but it is part of what makes this forum such a valuable place.

I had an experience a few months ago where I entered my childhood home when my elderly mother, who now lives there alone, was away in another state.  Immediately upon entering the front door I had an experience I had never had before--a searing pain went through my body, and I felt at once hollow and filled with despair.  I assumed it had to do with unhappy body memories from old associations with my childhood home.  Although my childhood wasn't perfect, it was nothing like Jane's, just to be clear.     We're talking about garden-variety hurts here, for the most part, but in that moment, they happened to hurt like hell.

Seth's concept of changing one's past came to my mind very quickly, and I got busy vividly creating happy "memories" that I could feel to the tips of my toes.  I spent about an hour each morning for a couple of weeks doing this.  I started by imagining myself as a damp newborn being cradled by my two adoring parents, I imagined being a toddler exploring bugs and flowers in nature while holding hands with my engaged and encouraging parents, and on and on through the years.  I feel that I have successfully created a new past to some degree, and encourage others to engage in the actions Seth describes!  It is not, though, that the past you now know becomes erased; it is that the past you now consider yours becomes probable to the new you of the present moment.  My spirit is a little lighter now.  Without even thinking about it, I now act and react in the way that a person with the kind of childhood I spent days vividly imagining acts and reacts.  There is not a dramatic difference; it is subtle, but distinct. And I felt it immediately each day, while engaging in the creation of these happy "memories", and afterward. Best wishes to kavyareddy2, and anyone else who gives it a shot. 

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It is not, though, that the past you now know becomes erased; it is that the past you now consider yours becomes probable to the new you of the present moment.

Hi leidl.

Wow that is absolutely awesome. Thank you for sharing that wonderful story. 

I apologize for not responding sooner, for some reason I only just recognized your post here today.

It sounds to me like you really grasped this concept.

It's about changing your past by acknowledging that probable pasts do exist and are every bit as legitimate as the past that we expereienced. It's also about acknowledging and accepting a different probable past than the one you experienced and a belief that this probable past, was, in fact, your past.

Wow. Awesome.


Somewhere in the vast amount of Seth information, I recall reading something from Seth where he talked about people who, for example, experience a complete spontaneous remission from some disease like cancer.  Seth said that something like this occurs with spontaneous remissions.

For a person who does this, from their present where they have cancer, they reach back into the past, from a time before they had the cancer, and choose a different probable future for themselves. A probably future, that does not involve cancer. Then, when they successfully do this, they become cancer free in the present.  How awesome is that? The power of belief!


On top of this, it also turns out that disease doesn't appear to be connected to a person's body, even though many people probably think that it is. What am I talking about?  There is a story, in Chapter 4 of the book, "The Holographic Universe", by Michael Talbot, where we hear about a person with DID (Dissociated Identity Disorder, this use to be called multiple personalities). For this person, all but one of his personalities, were allergic to orange juice. Whenever this one personality drank orange juice, there were no problems. However if any of his other personalities drank orange juice they would break out in a severe rash. How can that possibly occur, if it's the body itself that contains the allergy?  In this book, the author gives us several other interesting things that people with DID have experienced along these lines via their different personalities.



These types of stories, from sources other than Seth, make me think that Seth is really onto something when he talks about spontaneous remissions.  They also make me think that he might be right that likewise it might also be possible to change our past from the present.

How awesome, for you.

Thank you very much for sharing this wonderful experience leidl

-jbseth

Quote from: jbseth
For this person, all but one of his personalities, were allergic to orange juice. Whenever this one personality drank orange juice, there were no problems. However if any of his other personalities drank orange juice they would break out in a severe rash. How can that possibly occur, if it's the body itself that contains the allergy?

jbseth, thank you for your warm response.  I must read Talbot's book!  At some point I'd like to research studies that have been done on the placebo effect.  We know that a fair amount of people respond to placebos as if they were real drugs, but I'd love to know why some people respond, and not others.  Are the responders the people who are most confident in the drugs and doctors?  In cancer treatment, there are people who seem to respond perfectly to chemo and radiation, and they're called "super-responders."  Science thinks they just happened to get a treatment that aligned perfectly with their tumor type and genetics, but perhaps what's going on is they are "super-believers."

After my stay at my mother's house as described in my previous post, I returned to my own home in another state.  I immediately called up a friend of mine who deals with a challenging amount of psychological pain, and told her about the experience, thinking she might find it encouraging.  She wasn't overly enthused. I suspect stories like mine sound like cases of self-hypnosis to people who are not familiar with the viewpoint that reality reduces to consciousness, rather than matter.  Hypnosis is viewed as "tricking yourself into believing something," if you don't see consciousness as fundamental.  Once we begin to accept that reality is infinitely cascading modulations of consciousness, then there is no material self to be "tricked into believing something," there is only consciousness itself.  Why not make that consciousness pleasant?  :-)

Deb made a great comment in her post about the importance of not reinforcing negative elements of our pasts by dwelling on them.  For anyone reading, when you find yourself in a light and optimistic mood, this is the easiest time to incrementally shift your reality. 

jbseth, your experience with your sister is so interesting.  Have you tried exploring other memories together, to see how different they are?  I wonder if you could pinpoint the approximate period where probable selves started new trajectories.  What I wouldn't give to see the Venn diagram of my family's probable selves!

Quote from: leidl
jbseth, your experience with your sister is so interesting.  Have you tried exploring other memories together, to see how different they are?  I wonder if you could pinpoint the approximate period where probable selves started new trajectories.

Hi leidl,

Regarding the placebo effect, I think Michael Talbot also talks about this in his book, "The Holographic Universe". I know that Joe Dispenza has also written some books about this, and I think Deb, our forum host, is familiar with some of his information.


My sister, Debbie, who I was talking about, and I grew up together, she is 2 years older than me. My other siblings were all 6 or more years older than me. This is the only event like this that I've ever had with any of my family members.

Debbie and I only talk on occasion, she and I live about 1500 miles away from each other, but whenever we do, we reminisce a lot. We were about 15 years old when this event occurred and in our mid 60's when I recognized the difference in our beliefs about what occurred back then. I don't recall ever talking with her about this specific event previously and so I don't actually know when this probable split occurred.


Regarding probable selves, in UR1, S681, Seth tells Rob that he had a probable self who died when Rob was 11 years old, of an operation. He also talks about a probable Rob, who was a airplane pilot during ww2.


-jbseth

Quote from: leidl
At some point I'd like to research studies that have been done on the placebo effect.  We know that a fair amount of people respond to placebos as if they were real drugs, but I'd love to know why some people respond, and not others.

Leidl, great story about your mother's house, and great work on your part!

If you really are interested in the placebo effect, I highly recommend reading Joe Dispenza's You Are the Placebo: Making Your Mind Matter. I have the audio version and will probably listen to it again on an upcoming road trip. The printed version, and probably the Kindle version, have end notes with the references to the examples and studies he writes about in the book. In a way, Joe pretty much teaches what Seth did, but from a scientific angle. It all comes down to beliefs and expectations. While Seth teaches how that works for us behind the scene, Joe writes about the physical processes involved.

In the book Joe writes about an experiment that was done with a bunch of elderly men in various stages of physical degeneration. They put them in a house (in the country) that was decorated with furnishings from the past, from when the men would have been in their prime. TVs and radios only played shows and music from that same time period. Everything they were surrounded by was from the "good old days." By the end the experiment the men's physical conditions were reversing, they became more lively, even got together a game of touch football. One person shed his walker. Sorry my details are fuzzy, it's been 6 years since I read the book. But that experiment really impressed me.

The book description here will tell you more:

https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Placebo-Making-Matter/dp/1401944582

Hello jbseth and Deb,

Okay, I've got my reading assignments for the coming week or two--thank you both.  I like to read books on the science-y end of things; I teach philosophy and am uncomfortable getting caught with too much "woo" on my bookshelves. :-)  In fact I've got no one to discuss Seth with, which is why I'm exploring this site right now.
From what I've read of the Seth material, which is quite a bit, his ideas all dovetail with each other very well.  I've yet to come across two ideas of his that conflict.  His ideas deserve more attention than they the get, from multiple disciplines, but perhaps this is always the case with channeled material. 

Talbot and Dispenza both look really interesting!  Deb, the experiment with the elderly men would make an excellent documentary.  It would be so powerful to watch those men come to life together.  It might be interesting to just immerse oneself in favorite books and movies from the past for a few weeks, and see what happens. 

jbseth, I'm wondering how one can distinguish between faulty memory and differences in memory that are a result of the creation of probable selves.  Once a year my mom and I drive a thousand miles together, and we do reminisce a bit.  We often notice differences in our memories, but I've always attributed it to my mom's age.  I'll pay more attention to these conversations; I'd never really looked at them through a Sethian lens.  Yes, I read Unknown Reality a few weeks back, and I remember the discussion of Rob's probable selves--fascinating stuff!

Quote from: leidl
jbseth, I'm wondering how one can distinguish between faulty memory and differences in memory that are a result of the creation of probable selves.

Hi leidl,

If you like science-y books, then I think you'll really like the Talbot book.

Regarding false memories, maybe all false memories are really nothing more than memories from probable realities.

- jbseth

I actually bought a used copy of Holographic Universe on your recommendation, jbseth. It's on my to-read shelf. I wish I could find it as an audio book, I have one heck of a road trip coming up soon and would love to get some "reading" done. Lynne McTaggart wrote the forward to the book, she's another great author. I enjoyed The Field, and would like to read The Intention Experiment: Using Your Thoughts to Change Your Life and the World. That one is available as audio.

"'Drawing on the findings of leading scientists from around the world, "The Intention Experiment is an extraordinary advance in our understanding of consciousness as a field of all possibilities where intention orchestrates its own fulfillment. If you want to empower yourself and use the laws of intention to manifest your material reality, read this book' (Deepak Chopra)." 

I had no idea, but apparently Michael Talbot has written some popular fiction books too!

Hi All,

Unfortunately, Michael Talbot died in 1992, about a year after he wrote "The Holographic Universe".
This might be one reason why it's difficult to find this book in audio format. It may not have ever been put into audio format.


-jbseth

Hi there! It's nice to be a part of your community now.

I read some books of JaneRoberts/Seth in my youth, but I didn't understand many of his concepts. So I lost interest over time. But some 'strokes of fate' brought me back to the Seth Material. Because it explained many things that happened to me more plausible and in-depth than most of the other 'Esoteric' teachers' theories I read over the years. Not to mention the world religions, that was always too close-minded for me. 

Back to topic: I read a book of Julia Shaw recently (The Memory Illusion). She's a psychological scientist at University College London. Regarding Shaw false memories are the phenomena that the individual believes that the information or the event had happened, when in fact it did not.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/the-memory-illusion/

Here's an interview:            

Would it be possible that alleged 'false' memories could be just the result of past events that we altered afterwards? Things happened to us, but they got fictitious after we changed our beliefs about those events? 

Quote from: steff74 on January 06, 2023, 12:36:29 PM...
Would it be possible that alleged 'false' memories could be just the result of past events that we altered afterwards? Things happened to us, but they got fictitious after we changed our beliefs about those events?

Seth talks about the present being "the point of power".

In my view, this means that our current individual beliefs, expectations, thoughts, emotions, level of evolvement determine what our awake conscious selves (a.k.a. egos, outer-selves) experiences as present reality, including our memories of the past.

There is a past that each of our egos experienced to get to this current point, but our memories don't reflect that past. Our individual memories reflect whatever our individual subconscious creates in this present as a point of power, based on our current individual beliefs, expectations, thoughts, emotions, level of evolvement.

The idea of "changing the past" is generally thought in terms of something that happened, in order to experience a different present. This is similar to wishing for an experience in the future, starting from where we are in the present.

The present as a point of power concept doesn't work that way. Our individually perceived present, past, and future always reflect only our current individual beliefs, expectations, thoughts, emotions, level of evolvement.

To directly answer your quoted question: we don't alter past events, but our individual subconscious continuously creates a memory of the past; we don't recall things that happened to us; what we recall isn't fictitious per se, but it is the reality we experience in the present. There isn't a single objective physical-reality that could be observed.

I haven't watched that video.

No welcoming and there is just one active user? It seems Seth can't be that important nowadays... what a pity.

The lack of activity on this forum shouldn't lead to any conclusions about the importance of the Seth material for you.

In my experience, we keep facing the same or similar opportunities to learn, over and over until we get it. This might be such an opportunity for you.

The Seth material is very important to me.

It seems that you are very familiar with the Seth Material. Would you recommend reading other 'sources of wisdom' (channeled material or books from other authors) or staying with the Seth Material only?

I've read Eckhart Tolle and watched some of his seminar videos at YouTube. I've read Neville Goddard in the past too. But both left me with the lack of deep knowledge I know from Seth. Even Esther and Jerry Hicks stayed on the information surface in comparision to Seth. Seth recommended Maxwell Maltz. His technique is great, but it is just that - a tool. I've read Vadim Zeland - his theory of the space of variations is interesting, his theories about nutrition, 'living food' are often exaggerated. Regarding Seth healthy food is important, but more important are the beliefs we have about the things we eat. I also don't like Zeland's 'pendulums' - they remind me of the demons in the bible and I really don't want to see me as a victim of anything other than my own limiting beliefs. When Zeland started to mention astral sex creatures, I was completely done with his books.
       

Hi Steff I didn't see you were new here, welcome. For my part I like this forum because it's nice and quiet so no one disagrees with me 😉

Also given the deep trance the world is sinking deeper into the works that contain the most truth I feel are the most neglected. A mass following is no indication of quality in these times.

Quote from: steff74 on January 10, 2023, 08:47:03 AMIt seems that you are very familiar with the Seth Material. Would you recommend reading other 'sources of wisdom' (channeled material or books from other authors) or staying with the Seth Material only?

I've read Eckhart Tolle and watched some of his seminar videos at YouTube. I've read Neville Goddard in the past too. But both left me with the lack of deep knowledge I know from Seth. Even Esther and Jerry Hicks stayed on the information surface in comparision to Seth. Seth recommended Maxwell Maltz. His technique is great, but it is just that - a tool. I've read Vadim Zeland - his theory of the space of variations is interesting, his theories about nutrition, 'living food' are often exaggerated. Regarding Seth healthy food is important, but more important are the beliefs we have about the things we eat. I also don't like Zeland's 'pendulums' - they remind me of the demons in the bible and I really don't want to see me as a victim of anything other than my own limiting beliefs. When Zeland started to mention astral sex creatures, I was completely done with his books.
     

I read or browsed all those authors (including Maltz), and many others. I do this not to learn how they see things, nor how things are, but to get cues that help me on my path. I interpret them and make choices.

I was never able to read more than a few chapters from Zeland, but I think he's more profound than others who are better known in the West. His "pendulums" concept was useful to me. It explains how to deal with people and situations that drain your energy hopelessly. It took me a while to understand what "ignore" means, and why it is better than "paying back what they deserve", and such. "Ignore" doesn't mean "overlook", or "accept it as it is", but really don't give those a second thought, don't care, fuhgeddaboudit!

I read Seth with the same attitude: not to understand what Jane channeled from him, but for pointers, cues, and somewhat confirmations.

What I believe in, and do, is tapping my inner-source of knowledge and guidance, my own "Seth"-within, while being always very careful to leave aside my beliefs and expectations, in order to minimize distortions.

I believe that you can't progress on learning about the nature of reality, and what you should do here and now, neither from others (be they recognized sages, gurus, dogmas), nor from arguing with others the merits of your and their convictions and opinions. To me, it seems like an individual quest. I believe that Truth is infinite, that truths aren't decided by majorities.

I browsed to some degree most of the Seth material, a few books read cover-to-cover. Then I discovered Christopher's "Seth Material Search Engine", and now I believe that it is more helpful to use it to search for concepts you are interested in, which are spread over the whole material, than to read the books cover-to-cover. Reading through the books for context around the quotes delivered by the search engine, is also very helpful to weed out some misunderstandings.

I believe I answered your

Quote from: steff74 on January 10, 2023, 08:47:03 AMWould you recommend reading other 'sources of wisdom' (channeled material or books from other authors) or staying with the Seth Material only?

by telling you what I do. It might be good for you too, but we're all different, with different needs.

Quote from: Bora137 on January 10, 2023, 05:44:57 PMHi Steff I didn't see you were new here, welcome. For my part I like this forum because it's nice and quiet so no one disagrees with me 😉

Hi Bora (are you from South Korea? I know a person with the name Bora there). Nice to meet you. I don't like big forums too, but I'd expect more visitors here. Unfortunately it seems that the Seth Material almost got forgotten even in the USA. 

Quote from: inavalan on January 10, 2023, 07:49:55 PMI was never able to read more than a few chapters from Zeland, but I think he's more profound than others who are better known in the West. His "pendulums" concept was useful to me. It explains how to deal with people and situations that drain your energy hopelessly. It took me a while to understand what "ignore" means, and why it is better than "paying back what they deserve", and such. "Ignore" doesn't mean "overlook", or "accept it as it is", but really don't give those a second thought, don't care, fuhgeddaboudit!

I thought about Pendulums for a while and how they could fit in Seth's worldview. Then I read NoPR and there is this statement:

QuotePeople with like ideas reinforce each other's beliefs. You may meet with some misunderstanding when you suddenly decide to change your reality by changing your beliefs — according to the circumstances, you may be going in a completely different direction than the group to which you belong. The others may feel it necessary to defend ideas that all of you previously took for granted. In such cases your beliefs merged. Each individual has his or her own ideas about reality for reasons that seem valid. Needs are met. When you abruptly change your beliefs, then in the group you no longer have the same position — you are not playing that game any longer.

(NoPR Part One: Chapter 4: Session 622, October 18, 1972)
 

Hi Steff no I'm in Britain. Ye I got that response the other day when I mentioned Seth the woman said to me God that's old stuff. Made me a bit amused because it's so far ahead of anything 'current'.

Quote from: steff74 on January 11, 2023, 09:17:09 AM...

I thought about Pendulums for a while and how they could fit in Seth's worldview. Then I read NoPR and there is this statement:

QuotePeople with like ideas reinforce each other's beliefs. You may meet with some misunderstanding when you suddenly decide to change your reality by changing your beliefs — according to the circumstances, you may be going in a completely different direction than the group to which you belong. The others may feel it necessary to defend ideas that all of you previously took for granted. In such cases your beliefs merged. Each individual has his or her own ideas about reality for reasons that seem valid. Needs are met. When you abruptly change your beliefs, then in the group you no longer have the same position — you are not playing that game any longer.

(NoPR Part One: Chapter 4: Session 622, October 18, 1972)
 

Could you elaborate on this? What is the connection, or the discrepancy that you see?

Quote from: steff74 on January 09, 2023, 08:02:14 PMNo welcoming and there is just one active user? It seems Seth can't be that important nowadays... what a pity.

Hey steff, I do not understand your comment but, there are many variety of folks that come through here, observers/readers, folks who post more often than others, some who have posted a lot and are busy rn, we are all still here. Some of us are on vacation, or moving.

Not sure if you noticed but we do have a common area for new folks such as yourself that post here to introduce themselves:

https://speakingofseth.com/index.php/board,38.0.html

You have to be signed in to see that board so anyone just reading may not see it until they do log in.

And yes welcome here. Check out that link too and introduce yourself. It builds conversation also.

When I can post more I hope to be a part of that.

When I was a child I was very much an atheist or extreme agnostic. My mother read me small sections of Jane Roberts writings as our conversations crossed related points. This may have changed me in many ways throughout my life.

At 18 a person named Sam kicked open my psychic doors and my spiritual doors in what may, or may not, have been an ethical effort.

The result is I spent many years as a spiritual Mystic in search of certain answers.

I kept running across a specific idea from people, writings, and from without and within. That idea is:

-- "Time is an illusion created for man." --

As time went on all of my mystical and spiritual searches finally settled on this single idea.

I came very close (on my own, if you can actually call it that) to understanding the answer. But it was so extraordinarily unbelievable, and powerful, I couldn't believe it.

In a 6-hour conversation with a tree in the middle of a swamp - my understanding was confirmed with some slight corrections and modifications for accuracy. That is the one and only time I have ever talked to a tree.

That conversation occurred when I was 33. I went home and explained it to my mother. She said no, and, that I needed to look at Seth Speaks. She randomly opened the book and read me words that confirmed exactly what I told her. She was dumbfounded. This was the first time she had referred to Seth since I was a small child.

I wish I could explain it to you clearly, but to do so may harm your growth or existence even. Each person must come to grow and understand things in their own time and on thier own path. It harmed hers for several years.

But you will find the answer all through Seth's writings.

But here's the most important takeaway - which is very familiar. . . .

Give love to everyone you meet:
>> Every time you help another person - you are directly helping yourself.
>> Every time you harm another person - you are harming yourself directly.
>> Treat everyone you meet the way THEY want to be treated. . . (NOT how you want to be treated - that is a very different thing.)

PS: To 'give love' is not the same thing as to 'feel love'.

The whole world is yourself pushed out.

You meet your beliefs face to face in your daily life. In e v e r y t h i n g you do, everywhere you go....

Revise !