~Speaking of Seth~

This pdf ebook is available for free download here:

https://www.llresearch.org/library/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice.pdf

An extract from the book:

QuoteWould you rather graduate, at the end of this lifetime, and move
on to the Density of Love? Or would you rather spend 76,000 or
so more years having one incarnation after another in another
earth-like environment while working with these same lessons and
playing this same game? Most of us would choose to graduate. The
key to graduating is to achieve sufficient polarity to move on.
Let's put this in numbers. According to the Ra group, graduation
in positive polarity is achieved when we have a score of 51%
service to others or higher. In other words, if we are thinking about
serving others more than half of the time, we have made a score
that allows graduation in positive polarity.
To graduate in negative polarity, the requirement is that we have a
score of 5% service to others, or 95% service to self. It is quite a bit
harder to graduate in service to self, since our love of self and
concern for the self must be so pure.
Those who will not graduate at all have scores of somewhere
between 6% and 50% service to others. It is the easiest thing in
this world to stay within those percentages. To score 51% or
higher or to score 5% or less takes an awareness of the Game and
the decision to play this Game which creates a rule of life or
contract with yourself that will boost your score to over 51% or
under 5%.
Because we are at the very end of this Density of Choice, our time
to become aware and make our decision to polarize is limited.

I don't think Seth said something like this, but I think this is compatible with the Seth teachings. The Seth teachings ended with Jane's death in 1984. That was 37 years ago. Some of the Law of One teachings are more recent.

Thanks for the link Sena.

Seth did touch on helping others often, but I don't recall him basing our ability to spiritually advance solely on service to others.

It felt strange to me to have specific percentages attributed to our ability to graduate to the next level, since the various speakers and even quantum physics say that time, space and our reality are illusions. But then they do have to speak to us in terms we can understand. 51% doesn't seem like something that's too hard to achieve. It the intention would need to be sincere, not like those on death row who spent a life hurting others and then suddenly become Christians before they're offed.

Quote from: Sena
I don't think Seth said something like this, but I think this is compatible with the Seth teachings. The Seth teachings ended with Jane's death in 1984. That was 37 years ago. Some of the Law of One teachings are more recent.

I hate to put a time limit on the nature of reality. I could probably say that the majority if not all of what Seth said 40 years ago is still applicable to current times, thanks to our "donkey slow" pace of progress.

It seems to me a lot of people want to help others in different ways, depending on what they can offer others. Of course there are the "takers" too. I'd had a few of them in my life, one-way relationships that I've had to step away from once I realized they were not as burdened by their lives as much as they felt entitled.

I saw this video recently of a man born without arms or legs, Nick Vujicic. He's one of the most inspirational people I've seen, turning his challenges into a way to reach out and help others. This video is from 2008. I just saw him interviewed this week, and he's now married and a father of four beautiful children. He's well educated, an inspirational speaker, author, very successful and involved with others. He's a devout Christian, but I don't hold that against him. 

If anyone has managed to lift himself out of negative "polarity" it's Nick. Maybe he's one of the speakers Seth talks about that have finished their reincarnational cycle, and came back anyway to do service to others.

"Some, finished with reincarnation, may choose to reenter the cycle acting as teachers, and in such cases some recognition of higher identity is always present."
—SS Chapter 11: Session 540, July 6, 1970

Based on this, I guess I'll be coming back for another go around.  I keep to myself and don't interact with many others.  Introversion and spending most of our lives by ourselves traits that both my wife and I have.  I certainly don't go out of my way to harm others, but I also don't go out of my way to help.  If I see someone that needs help, I certainly will help, but that's as far as it goes.  I've never felt an overwhelming calling to reach out beyond myself.  I worked jobs dealing with the public when I was younger, but moved away from that as soon as I had the chance.  I have numerous acquaintances and only a couple of friends.  I feel at my best this way and have no desire to change it.

I'm certainly not going to hit that 51%.

Rather than feel like there is something wrong with me, I feel that perhaps that is how I chose to live this life.  I'm fine with that.  The idea of someone/thing telling me that I need to hit a number to ascend or whatever seems silly to me.  Hard and fast rules for things sound a lot like religion.

Quote from: usmaak
Based on this, I guess I'll be coming back for another go around.  I keep to myself and don't interact with many others.  Introversion and spending most of our lives by ourselves are a trait that both my wife and I have.  I certainly don't go out of my way to harm others, but I also don't go out of my way to help.

We can't all be Mother Theresa. I don't know what TLoO considers service to others. The way I see it, being considerate and kind qualify. Not everyone can or does go out and volunteer with charities. But doing things as simple as calling a stranger's attention to something they inadvertently dropped on a sidewalk, letting a car merge in front of them on the road, reaching for a jar on the top shelf of a grocery for a short old lady, holding a door open for someone else, smiling at a person you don't know, stopping a runaway toddler from dashing into the street (I've done that twice, lol, damn parents don't keep their eyes on their own kids)... seem important enough to me. Not going out of the way to harm others, or not having a total lack of regard for them, is major too.

Quote from: usmaak
Rather than feel like there is something wrong with me, I feel that perhaps that is how I chose to live this life.  I'm fine with that.  The idea of someone/thing telling me that I need to hit a number to ascend or whatever seems silly to me.  Hard and fast rules for things sound a lot like religion.

Good points. I'm not concerned with rules on "how to get into heaven" or spiritually advanced. I yam what I yam, and will advance naturally when it's time. Anything other than that would be contrived and insincere.

Quote from: Deb
We can't all be Mother Theresa. I don't know what TLoO considers service to others. The way I see it, being considerate and kind qualify. Not everyone can or does go out and volunteer with charities. But doing things as simple as calling a stranger's attention to something they inadvertently dropped on a sidewalk, letting a car merge in front of them on the road, reaching for a jar on the top shelf of a grocery for a short old lady, holding a door open for someone else, smiling at a person you don't know, stopping a runaway toddler from dashing into the street (I've done that twice, lol, damn parents don't keep their eyes on their own kids)... seem important enough to me. Not going out of the way to harm others, or not having a total lack of regard for them, is major too.

I really like this.  When I think of "helping others", it's always a "big thing" in my mind.  Giving all of my money to charities, volunteering everywhere, etc...  I never considered the cumulative effect of all of these little things.  I did everything on your list except for chasing a toddler down the street in the last month.  Some multiple times.

Quote from: Deb
Good points. I'm not concerned with rules on "how to get into heaven" or spiritually advanced. I yam what I yam, and will advance naturally when it's time. Anything other than that would be contrived and insincere.

This is exactly how I feel.  For the most part, I like myself just as I am.  Of course we all change over time, but I don't see a need to force change.

Quote from: Deb
We can't all be Mother Theresa. I don't know what TLoO considers service to others.

Deb, I don't think we need to be like Mother Theresa to serve others. An example I can think of is a situation where I am with another person and there is a limited amount of food. If I eat 75% of the food, that would be service to self. If I eat 49% of the food, that will be 51% service to others.

Quote from: usmaak
I keep to myself and don't interact with many others.  Introversion and spending most of our lives by ourselves traits that both my wife and I have.

usmaak, being an introvert or extrovert has nothing to do with service to others. It does not mean you need to serve millions of people. Being considerate to your wife may be all that is necessary. If a person is a billionaire, he may need to serve many people to meet the 51% requirement.

Quote from: Sena

Quote from: usmaak
I keep to myself and don't interact with many others.  Introversion and spending most of our lives by ourselves traits that both my wife and I have.

usmaak, being an introvert or extrovert has nothing to do with service to others. It does not mean you need to serve millions of people. Being considerate to your wife may be all that is necessary. If a person is a billionaire, he may need to serve many people to meet the 51% requirement.

It does if I pretty much avoid contact with people.  But I do take your point.

Quote from: Sena
Those who will not graduate at all have scores of somewhere
between 6% and 50% service to others. It is the easiest thing in
this world to stay within those percentages. To score 51% or
higher or to score 5% or less takes an awareness of the Game and
the decision to play this Game which creates a rule of life or
contract with yourself that will boost your score to over 51% or
under 5%.

Hi Sena,

You have a real talent for posting provocative stuff. So for me, any source that tries to quantify, in percentages, some measure of spiritual development, must be a Game, just like that quote says. It seems pretty clear that this kind of statement is not revealing some fundamental truth, but instead is literally describing a Game that somebody invented. Sounds like someone's attempt to capture a truth, at least, but why do they have to gross me out with these percentages? It reveals the whole paragraph to be expressing a very limited view. It's like "playing spirituality for gamers."

This is my gut reaction, and I don't claim anything beyond that. But please, enough with the percentages, already.

Quote from: KylePierce

Quote from: Sena
Those who will not graduate at all have scores of somewhere
between 6% and 50% service to others. It is the easiest thing in
this world to stay within those percentages. To score 51% or
higher or to score 5% or less takes an awareness of the Game and
the decision to play this Game which creates a rule of life or
contract with yourself that will boost your score to over 51% or
under 5%.

Hi Sena,

You have a real talent for posting provocative stuff. So for me, any source that tries to quantify, in percentages, some measure of spiritual development, must be a Game, just like that quote says. It seems pretty clear that this kind of statement is not revealing some fundamental truth, but instead is literally describing a Game that somebody invented. Sounds like someone's attempt to capture a truth, at least, but why do they have to gross me out with these percentages? It reveals the whole paragraph to be expressing a very limited view. It's like "playing spirituality for gamers."

This is my gut reaction, and I don't claim anything beyond that. But please, enough with the percentages, already.

Hi Kyle, I agree that the idea of percentages may not appeal to everybody. The impression I get is that it is presented as an alternative to the Ten Commandments:

"Thou shall not commit adultery more than 49% of the time."

It seems to me that your writings on astrology are a service to others.

Quote from: Sena
"Thou shall not commit adultery more than 49% of the time."

I guess in this case, it would be very important to keep accurate numbers.

Quote from: usmaak
"Thou shall not commit adultery more than 49% of the time."

God will get you for that!

You guys crack me up.

And there are a lot of people that think we're living in a simulation, so all of this could be considered a game where we collect points to reach higher levels. And if we get shot down mid-game, we get to come back and do it all over again. WE ARE "THE SIMS 3D." 

In service to others....

This topic not just here but when I see it has ALWAYS chapped my hide.

I end up asking "wtf does that mean!!!"

lmao

I have since learned FOR ME that it simply means "lifting others up" in MY mental house.

Say I am driving down the road and come to a red light where there is a ....person with a sign that says "will work for food".

Well OLC within people would do the following: guilt the people in the car to where they end up giving this person money, pity the person with the sign, say harsh shit like "get a f'kn job ya bum", offer the sign person with a job (WHICH they often enough turn down!), the list does on and on and on.

What is the best thing I can do for this person that is now in my line of sight? Do I wave and say hi, do I roll my window down and enable this person to stay stuck by freely handing out my money? Will it in fact do any good? etc etc

FOR ME the best thing I can do and its what I do now, is to lift this person up in my thoughts and beliefs and have faith in my creative power to lift this person out of a predicament.

If their sign says "I will work --- for food" I know two things about this person. They are jobless and they dont have food.

So I in my creative power, provide food and a great job! I remove this person from my enslavement to a jobless foodless "sign-person", to a joyous within person who is working and eating and playing and now on a path to creative expression!

Same with healing. Just because you can lay your hands on someone and heal them does not mean that you should. For one thing, this person still has to "tackle" what got them to that point in the first place. If I heal someone, this problem will pop up somewhere else in their body. If I get a chance to talk to them and find out more information, thats different. But just outright curing someone even medically, does not always solve their problem!

I find that in service to others means I am lifting them out of a state I have put them in .... in my mind....and freeing them to their "highest" self in this physical life.

It doesnt mean I go and volunteer and give people free this and free that. Is that helpful ? SERIOUSLY IS IT? I think it enables them to stay stuck!

But if I come across someone and there is an opportunity to feed them also as I eat, sure why not. Its one meal and it isnt 6 months of free food so they still are not doing anything. Like the US welfare program. That does nothing most of the time except to keep people stuck or bribe them to do what others want. Dangle the eternal carrot.

Everyone is in a state. What state do you choose to see people in ?

I also find myself putting my muck on paper a LOT nowadays. For my outer ego to see it in writing really stirs something up within me. I do not want to see certain beliefs written down and it propels me to change myself.

The further I am away from love .... the further I am away from TRUTH and FAITH inside of me. It can be painful to be so far away from your own love of self and life. For if you do not love yourself then there is no way you can love another.

"What is coming at you is coming from within you."

Then there are hurricane and flood services. These people are not for the most part going to NEED anything if they have creative power and know how to use it. They might need some clothes and other food items and perhaps some clean water - but to me this is merely temporary. What will the whole of them need for the long haul? I have no idea! Circumstances have now changed! What do I know about the path their whole self is on? I can do things that make ME feel good and sure, some of them are very grateful and it will help them get back on their feet again. But there is a fine line between being in service to others and enabling them to stay stuck!

And of course I generalized the service provided by people in catastrophe situations. There is a multitude of things going on for each individual that contributed to this. I recognize that.

But being in service to others sounds to me sometimes, like Im supposed to do this or that and THAT is simply not true.

I lift when I lift because I am training and understanding love. And to me it is not very loving to enable others to be repeating the same stuck muck crap day in and day out by a mere freebie handout when their entire life could change when I bring them out of a state of muck and into a state of joy and creative expression - IN MY MIND.

How do I know this is a success? Because of my experience and confirmations I receive. I dont always get confirmations but I have faith. And I check in with myself. An... ecology check..if you will.

When you are on your road to graduation, YOU WILL KNOW and it has NOTHING to do with percentages!!!!!
Your Inner World will come to you like a thief in the night and TELL YOU.
BUT it will ..... take an understanding on your part that YOU are the creator of YOUR world and a JOY to do it ! A love... to do it! NOT percentages!

So thats my two cents. lol

The homeless person is serving you. They are giving you an opportunity. Personally, so far I have not accepted their offer, maybe I'll get to a point where I will one day. A lot of perspectives around the law of one seem to be centered on personal moral guilt for not applying it to every part of one's life immediately and unequivocally. This is a false belief. There is no right or wrong, there is no moral guilt (unless of course you create it). Choose the service to self path and you will progress towards the Godhead just as easily as the service to others path. I have to say though that fourth density negative does not sound like a great place and you have to have a disposition for it.

Drive past the homeless person without a care. I do. I'm not an angel incarnate, I'll look for some easier opportunity to help others - feeding the neighbour's cat, fixing a friend's computer. Don't go large too soon 😳 - Ra actually says you can make yourself ill doing this.

You can lift them up years later as well.

We are all working together. That is why we have mass events *S*

Everyone is our teacher. E v e r y o n e

We teach and are taught.

Quote from: Bora137 on October 25, 2021, 03:49:23 PMThe homeless person is serving you. They are giving you an opportunity.  Personally, so far I have not accepted their offer, maybe I'll get to a point where I will one day.

I like that.

Yeah, service to others. It's never that simple. I help when and where I can. I gift my services and donate money to a few local nonprofits, because I know them and I know they are truly helping people or the animals they say they are. Nothing major, just little things here and there. Helping friends or family when they need it.

But I am suspicious of the "homeless" people I see on every corner here. Especially since there are some gypsies (yep, I know, but it's real, just do a search) that have made a profitable business out of taking advantage of compassionate people who don't know what's going on. It's not just in my area and it's nothing new. These gypsies have young women (sometimes pregnant) and children, infants too, and mix and match them in different combinations so they're not readily recognizable. They get dropped off by a newer model white van, and usually work the parking exit at Whole Foods or Sprouts or other upscale stores. Or Walmart. I see people giving the women money, and it makes me feel bad that their system is working. And because of that, they keep their women somewhat enslaved (I imagine). I feel that having very young children on display is akin to child abuse. And they sometimes drug the youngest ones to keep them quiet (see the video below). These are not the only people doing things like this.

Downtown Denver is overrun with homeless camps, and that's a whole other story. There are many social services they can take advantage of that comes from our tax dollars.

I suppose if I was a Christian I'd say that Jesus would never hesitate to help or give money to anyone who asks. I would not be a good Christian.

Here's a video from gypsies in Seattle. You don't need to log in to FB see it.

https://www.facebook.com/HLN/videos/who-are-the-women-and-children-seen-day-after-day-begging-on-the-streets-of-seat/2786417651411131/

I think many people do a "service to others" because it makes THEM feel good.
Which really is not the point in my book but, if you dont feel "good" about doing it then it is not helpful.

Being in service to others is a complex issue at times. Especially if you find yourself sacrificing yourself when you can not afford to. I do not mean only money either.

It can also run into the lines of, "smiling when you are angry". It is fake and false and people can tell. In the "service industry" for example: waiting tables... if you are faking the niceness all the time you will make more money. And if you give someone a sob story all the time, you will not make money. In the "service industry" to include hotels etc, all the customer service jobs etc, you are supposed to be nice even when you do not feel nice. You are sad or upset or angry. That is a whole nother ball of wax lol

Is your service genuine? Is it fake? lalala

Doing nice things because you want to is different than doing nice things out of guilt or worse... pity.

If I see young people on a corner "begging" I always wonder why their nails are clean lol

The vets I see do NOT look this way. Some of those corner people make a $100,000 + a year! But, to me it lacks integrity. I remember one time I went to Mexico as a child and parents would send their children over to me and beg for whatever I had. It was the strangest thing at the time for me to experience. I could see their parents using their kids and it reminded me of a step dad's bribery to me trying to buy me off, shut me up, and get rid of me. 

But I can stay in that story or I can forgive his state, and those parents who sent their kids out. I can forgive them all because it is merely a state. Besides, it isnt like I was a kid who never begged for things lol So I did contribute in a way to this state.

Also, people chose their circumstances. Who am I to pull them out of a life's lesson in the Earth School? This is why for me it is so very important to get very still inside and ask for data. Feel out for the data. 

If Jesus was a real person I can not imagine this being healing every tom dick and harry just because they asked. That would not be a wise thing to do. But.... this being could lift them in the mind's eye and see them for who they really are. Or, talk to them and find out what is going on and be wise with the wordings and questions that lead a person to find the answer their own self. That is much more helpful than having to thank another for saving them. I think.

In the ancient of days, gypsies also carried some of the Oral traditions when others had "lost" it. What an interesting concept. Especially tarot cards. And yes the oral traditions are within. It is how you use them that is the difference. I for one do not use them anymore. Occasionally I will use a pendulum. But feeling out for the answer seems to work too.

When you mentioned gypsies my first thought was Tarot cards and how they carried some of the traditions on through the ages and what followed was the movie Brad Pitt was in, "Snatch" ? Then followed by Doctor Sleep. lol

I think being in service to others can be done while you are washing dishes. Doing laundry or taking a shower etc etc etc. I dont think you have to sacrifice a thing to accomplish being in service to another.

Some people like the physical action of it though and I do to sometimes. Like helping a neighbor or a friend or whatever.

Quote from: strangerthings on October 25, 2021, 09:41:09 PMIf I see young people on a corner "begging" I always wonder why their nails are clean lol

St, I do rarely give money to beggars. In Sri Lanka there is hardly any Social Security. On the other hand, there is a certain amount of organized begging, where disabled people beg on the street and give most of their takings to the big boss who controls them.
I like the idea of 51% Service to Others - don't want to go overboard with altruism.

Quote from: Bora137 on October 25, 2021, 03:49:23 PMDrive past the homeless person without a care. I do. I'm not an angel incarnate, I'll look for some easier opportunity to help others - feeding the neighbour's cat, fixing a friend's computer. Don't go large too soon 😳 - Ra actually says you can make yourself ill doing this.

Bora, I agree that Service to Others more than 51% is not advisable. The idea of "Love thy neighbor as thyself" is nonsensical.

Quote from: Sena on October 25, 2021, 11:04:18 PMwhere disabled people beg on the street and give most of their takings to the big boss who controls them.

Just when I think I have heard it all, why not this too! WOW!
Thats .... just .... I dont know I havent thought of the right word.

Love thy neighbor as thyself - well if you find the whole world is yourself pushed out, you meet your beliefs in the face, your journeys are  your projections etc  to me it does make sense.

When you meet people they mirror you. Seth says this quite a bit as do others. How would you ever know your percentage are you keeping tabs? If you are keeping tabs then whats the point? Reminds me of "The Good Place" show. lol

But seriously if your aiming for a 51% then percentages are what you care about and not just doing it because you want to. Being loving without sacrificing yourself or causing harm to another to include physically and mentally and spiritually harming another .... I do not understand the train of thought behind it I guess.

If it is a metaphor then yes. But if it is technically a percentage how on Earth would you ever know yours?  I guess adding the proverbial "%" sign bugs me. (hands up dont know)

When I do psy times I spend the first amount of time lifting someone out of a "negative" belief I have held. Then I work on the me stuff. I also do that kind of thing periodically moving through my days and nights. When it fancies me. I dont keep track of it though and I dont always want proof. I enjoy doing it just to do it.

If a percentage practice of this nature is what gets people motivated I say go for it. I figure many people will not bother keeping track. lol