~Speaking of Seth~

Twenty-five years ago my higher self told me I was here to work on my relationships with injustice and greed. At the time, I didn't know of Seth and my journey to this point has been winding, enlightening and incredible. Now, I am choosing to examine, yet again, my relationships with injustice and greed, and I believe insights from Seth could perhaps make my examination more fruitful. I am new to the material, so hope you can help me. I have made some recognitions about how greed manifests in my life... it comes in the form of a fear of lack. For example, even  when I can easily afford whatever I am buying, I tend to complain about how expensive that thing is... I am always shopping for the best bargain, I just generally worry about how much things cost - again, I do this even though I have NO LACK and no financial strain in my life whatsoever. I recognize this is greed expressing as "fear of lack." I have decided to shift my focus to gratitude any time this fear of lack habitually tries to pop into my head. Do you know of any suggestions from Seth on a different approach?

I need more support with injustice... I clearly see a pattern of attracting unfair situations into my life. When they happen, I really dwell on them... play them over and over in my head, have deeply wounded feelings, and just "can't believe I'm having to deal with this," etc. So, I recognize I am attracting opportunities to deal with my relationship with injustice... but what is the correction I need to make? What shift in my perception needs to happen in order for me to move along and learn new things? Thank you for guiding me to anything helpful Seth might have to share.

Hi KelliVee, welcome!

Wow, I'm so glad you found the Seth material, once you've read enough of the books you'll start to realize, deep down, that we do make our own reality. The impetus behind the creation begins with our beliefs, which are only thoughts that we keep thinking over and over. The first step is recognizing what is not serving us well. What we focus on, we only get more of. This is true on more than one level, because even mentally if we believe something, we look for evidence that our belief is true and ignore what doesn't fit. As far as your fear of lack, it seems to not be holding you back. Maybe it's just an old thought habit that you need to get rid of? I tend to have the same situation, I also look for the best bargain mostly because I grew up poor and took the adage "waste not, want not" seriously. I love getting things on sale, it's almost like a game for me now. Can I afford this or that? Yes, I can! So being frugal (in some ways, at least, I do splurge too) is not holding me back either.

As far as being focused on injustice... that too can be a habit. Again, dwelling on something brings more of it. There are loads of exercises in the Seth materials that help with all sorts of stuff. You can download a copy here, someone made it into a booklet. We're all about belief work here on the forum, it comes up a lot. Maybe you could search on the word "exercise" at the top right corner of this forum, you'll get a bunch of results.

We're here to learn and work out certain dramas we chose for ourselves before we came into these bodies. And if there are things in our lives that we are not happy with, we have the power to change that. Yes, shifting the focus more on things that are going right will definitely help. Being conscious of our thoughts and habits of thought help as well. Nip the unhelpful thoughts in the bud, divert thoughts to something positive, until a better habit is molded. It could take a little time, while some people have the ability to change their "minds" on the fly when they realize something is not serving them. They simply say to themselves "that's not true, I don't believe it anymore." I've done that a couple of times, with something minor, and it's truly liberating!

Oh it's also been mentioned here by other members that Byron Katie has a worksheet for dissecting beliefs, "Judge Your Neighbor."  Here's a page you can find more info. https://thework.com/instruction-the-work-byron-katie/ The Four Questions are pretty enlightening.

@KelliVee

I don't know if you are aware of the Seth Quote Search-Engine:

• https://nowdictation.com/q/injustice/
• https://nowdictation.com/q/greed/

This search-engine is quite useful for finding your way through the voluminous Seth material. It points you to the sessions and passages most relevant to your query. Then you can dig into them deeper. You can also customize your queries quite nicely.

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I wonder if the fact that you were told that you have to work on your relationships with injustice and greed, doesn't actually act at your subconscious level, having installed or strengthened beliefs that caused those aspects to manifest in your physical reality. It may be a case of self-fulfilling prophecy.

In any case, you have to identify the limiting  beliefs, then suspend and replace them with beliefs that enable you to create a better reality.

For this I recommend Seth's three-pronged method:

Quote"Few beliefs are intellectual alone. When you are examining the contents of your conscious mind, you must learn, or recognize, the emotional and imaginative connotations that are connected with a given idea. There are various ways of altering the belief by substituting its opposite. One particular method is three-pronged. You generate the emotion opposite the one that arises from the belief you want to change, and you turn your imagination in the opposite direction from the one dictated by the belief. At the same time you consciously assure yourself that the unsatisfactory belief is an idea about reality and not an aspect of reality itself."
—NoPR Part One: Chapter 4: Session 619, October 9, 1972

Regarding the "greed" / "fear of lack" ... I don't think that shifting your focus to gratitude helps. Why? Because nobody gives "it" to you, but you (your subconscious) create "it". The session #404 of TES8 has something on finances:

https://al-worldview.blogspot.com/2015/04/applying-law-of-attraction-to-finances.html

Basically you have to think, and behave like you have more, like you don't need to count pennies. E.g. when choosing between two items to buy, don't choose the cheapest one, but another one even if it costs only one penny more.

Regarding others' injustice done to you ... from session #340 of TES8

https://speakingofseth.com/index.php/topic,2765.msg22987.html#msg22987

QuoteWhat you see of others is the materialization of what you think , subconsciously, that you are: not necessarily what you are. For example: if others seem deceitful to you it is because you deceive yourself and then project this outward onto others.

In my experience, what also helps is to think in terms of how would you react to a similar "injustice" done by a 6 year old, who doesn't yet know better. It isn't a matter of forgiving, nor of understanding, but of not taking it personal, not reacting, but responding adequately for it not to happen again.

Many new-age people recommend all kind of kindness, but the issue isn't lack of kindness, but lack of understanding that you, and only you are responsible for what happens to you, and that is controlled by your thoughts and emotions. Your fear brings situations that will cause you more fear. Your anger brings situations that will cause you more anger.

Quote from: inavalan on July 05, 2022, 07:23:33 PMI don't think that shifting your focus to gratitude helps. Why? Because nobody gives "it" to you, but you (your subconscious) create "it". The session #404 of TES8 has something on finances:

Oh I don't know about that. Recognizing or focusing more on what's right in life vs what's wrong doesn't mean a person assumes someone "gives" anything to them, to me it's a matter of shifting one's interpretation of events. But I see gratitude more as appreciation, so maybe I'm wrong there. Since reading both AH and Seth, I've trained myself to look for something positive in things that I find upsetting or unwanted, i.e. what's my takeaway in what just happened? What is the lesson for me here? Lately the answers have been coming quickly. It also gives me a sense of purpose in what I see as negative events—I'm not a victim of something random.

As to the injustice issue—agreed to the issues around kindness. We are responsible for our own feelings/reactions. It's said others can't make us feel angry(or hurt, jealous, frustrated, offended, etc.), we choose how we react to something. And our beliefs are our filters. I feel that what we call injustices do exist, but they are always opportunities for growth and learning.

The quote below is from the Seth search engine. The comment about binding and mirroring is enough to make me want to "clean up my act" asap.

"Now all of this can be applied to your relationships in your reincarnational existences, and of course it also is highly pertinent to your current daily experience. If you hate another person, that hate may bind you to him through as many lives as you allow the hate to consume you. You draw to yourself in this existence and in all others those qualities upon which you concentrate your attention. If you vividly concern yourself with the injustices you feel have been done you, then you attract more such experience, and if this goes on, then it will be mirrored in your next existence. It is true that in between lives there is "time" for understanding and contemplation."
—SS Part Two: Chapter 12: Session 550, September 28, 1970

@Deb

I guess I differ from most others in my (conscious) belief that no negative experiences are imposed on us by an all-powerful entity in order to teach us or to punish us. I believe that such negative experiences result only from our mistakes, caused by our personalities' level of evolvement. I don't believe they are necessary, nor unavoidable.

I also consider that being nice, fair, helpful, polite, and such in a discriminate manner is normal, and surely people who don't practice them should learn to do so, but those aren't the actual lessons we came here to learn, similarly to when we entered school as children. We did it to study and develop our capabilities, and we should've mostly learned to behave from our parents, at home. Those who were behind with their behavior had to catch up on that, besides the regular curriculum.

I agree that no one is dealing out experiences to myself than me. I'm just saying that when something challenging or unwanted comes along, I figure it's for a reason, part of what I'm here to learn and grow with. A nudge from my higher or inner self.

I figure if I consistently create a smooth and effortless journey for myself, I probably don't belong here in F1. I'd have mastered the art of manipulating energy and would move on to some other challenge.

Lynda Dahl posted years ago (on Facebook) a list of what we are learning here. Nice to see it all in one spot.

https://speakingofseth.com/index.php/topic,1351.0.html

Quote from: KelliVee on July 05, 2022, 02:21:02 AMI need more support with injustice... I clearly see a pattern of attracting unfair situations into my life.

KeeliVee, welcome to the forum.

I am sorry to be rather blunt here, but the idea that you are attracting unfair situations into your life seems to me a false belief. I have a number of difficulties in my life, but I see those as learning opportunities.

Here is what Seth says about injustice:

"You of all people should realize that when valid concern for world problems turns into an obsession with world injustices that wipes out all, or threatens to wipe out all personal enjoyment, then trouble is on the way. For enjoyment is a weapon. The man who is capable of joy is capable, to a large extent, of changing his world. Joy is not a weak spineless idiot either. Its backbone is stronger than bitterness.

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Basically this concern for human welfare is indeed virtuous, but overindulged in it becomes loaded with possibilities that could be most unfortunate. You knew I was going to light into you this evening, as Ruburt would say. What I want, here, is the balance. Neither plunge yourself into the ignorance, doubts and injustices, so that you can see nothing else, nor close your eyes to them. But there must be a place within you where these do not exist, or the freedom of the inner self will be hampered, as far as its connection with the ego is concerned. Your deep consideration for human problems has indeed helped lead you to these sessions."

—TES3 Session 143 April 5, 1965

Quote from: Sena on July 08, 2022, 10:48:52 PM

Quote from: KelliVee on July 05, 2022, 02:21:02 AMI need more support with injustice... I clearly see a pattern of attracting unfair situations into my life.

... I have a number of difficulties in my life, but I see those as learning opportunities.
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Sorry about your difficulties. I wish you overcome them easily, quickly, completely.

I experienced the need and the impetus for a major leap in understanding, and for getting answers to "existential" questions, while being at both ends of the difficulty - serendipity curve.

In my case, it was completely unexpected when I experienced that at the serendipity end.

Quote from: Deb on July 05, 2022, 12:50:07 PMThere are loads of exercises in the Seth materials that help with all sorts of stuff. You can download a copy here, someone made it into a booklet. We're all about belief work here on the forum, it comes up a lot.

We're here to learn and work out certain dramas we chose for ourselves before we came into these bodies. And if there are things in our lives that we are not happy with, we have the power to change that.

Thank you so much for the welcome, Deb! I am thrilled to be amongst you all. I found in the booklet of exercises something that will be a great practice for me. The one titled: Altering a belief by substituting its opposite. I am going to meditate through my experiences with greed and injustice using this exercise tonight. I came here to learn and to grow... Excited to see what is next!

Quote from: inavalan on July 05, 2022, 07:23:33 PM@KelliVee
In any case, you have to identify the limiting  beliefs, then suspend and replace them with beliefs that enable you to create a better reality.

For this I recommend Seth's three-pronged method:

Quote"Few beliefs are intellectual alone. When you are examining the contents of your conscious mind, you must learn, or recognize, the emotional and imaginative connotations that are connected with a given idea. There are various ways of altering the belief by substituting its opposite. One particular method is three-pronged. You generate the emotion opposite the one that arises from the belief you want to change, and you turn your imagination in the opposite direction from the one dictated by the belief. At the same time you consciously assure yourself that the unsatisfactory belief is an idea about reality and not an aspect of reality itself."
—NoPR Part One: Chapter 4: Session 619, October 9, 1972

Basically you have to think, and behave like you have more, like you don't need to count pennies. E.g. when choosing between two items to buy, don't choose the cheapest one, but another one even if it costs only one penny more.

In my experience, what also helps is to think in terms of how would you react to a similar "injustice" done by a 6 year old, who doesn't yet know better. It isn't a matter of forgiving, nor of understanding, but of not taking it personal, not reacting, but responding adequately for it not to happen again.

Such great advice! Thank you. I found in the booklet the entire exercise on changing beliefs that you quoted. I'm excited to do it tonight for both issues. I do think perhaps both issues are as simple as me recognizing I hold a limiting belief about my reality that isn't true. Once I get that context in my headspace I think I will shift nicely away from those thoughts. Oh, and I LOVE your suggestion of viewing the injustices as though done by a 6 year old! I have often used a similar analogy when taking with judgmental people in the "spiritual" community when they bash those who don't seem to care about "spiritual" matters. I tell them to meet people where they are -- expecting the masses to understand the true nature of reality is like expecting a toddler to understand trigonometry.... Thank you!