Wow, a classic example of an insulted Ego that protects itself. I am just pointing out for you and the readers that you are trying to change the message from Seth into your own view, your own private symbolism. I take what Seth has spoken literally, and what he told about who and what Jesus are I would not edit at all. As spoken, this is a Seth topic, and I do not think any is in title to change his words into their own views. I am relating everything I say to what Seth have said.

I am not insulted from your outburst, only flabbergasted how the ego can feel so threatened from others spoken words. You may have read about what Seth say about Jesus, but you should read it again, he say that all the 3 Christ`s where men, and all shared some historical time together. He has not uttered one word about Jesus being Isis or any other divine symbolism, but a man in flesh and blood. Sacred feminine would be correct if you are playing with words, he was in fact both feminine and masculine, because he saw what he was inside, so he had both qualities off course. When we talk about Egyptian symbolism, I do know all the history back to pre-dynastic period, and I do never use any of the Gods or Goddesses as true stories, only symbolism to explain how they explained the creation story, and as you will see dualism was important, and all male Gods had a feminine counterpart. It is plain story telling in symbols, not to be taken as facts, only to visualize in words and symbols what they knew from the inner realm.

In fact you told me NO, in big letters, that I was wrong in my statements, and that you where correct, so you started with what you see yourself as insulting comments, but you did not see me getting insulted. I did in fact elaborated my comments with more information.

I wish you all a very nice day.

Hi Sena,

I agree. I'm not sure there is any randomness in these type of events in Seth's concepts.
Especially if you consider his concept of probable realities.

I can see how if it was played in the Lord's cricket ground, then there would have been some special emotion behind the contest.  Were you rooting for the English team or the Indian team?

jbseth

Hi T.M.,

Thanks. That's really interesting.

I didn't realize that there were claims of people doing this in more recent times.

jbseth

Hi All,

Some of the concepts that Seth talks about, are absolutely amazing. This includes a discussion that Seth had with Rob about, what I will refer to here as “bi-location”; the ability of a person to physically be in two locations at once.

I am personally aware of the following 3 sources that appear to contain incidents of bi-location.

Source 1:
In the book, “The autobiography of a Yogi”, the author, Yogananda, talks about seeing his master, outside of his ashram (his home/temple), at the same time that his other followers, told Yogananda, that this master was inside his ashram meditating. There are several incidences of this reported in this book.

Source 2:
In the Gospel of John, in Chapter 20, verse 19, after Jesus was crucified it says, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, came Jesus and stood in the mist, and said onto them, “Peace be onto you.”  This might be a bi-location event.

Source 3:
In the “Anastasia” book series, it appears that she bi-located; I think this was in Book 3, 4 or 5; I don’t recall exactly.


In “The Early Sessions”, Book 2, Session 47, (page 47), Rob writes about him having an out of body experience (OOBE) from his home in Elmira, where he travelled to New York City. In this OOBE, he went to an office building and saw a young woman who was trying to open an office window. Apparently this young woman had her back to Rob.


In “The Early Sessions”, Book 2, Session 48, here’s what Seth had to say about this:

“You saw the back of the girl’s head simply because the girl was standing with her back to you. Had you been able to speak to her, it is probable that she would have turned. Whether or not you were physically assembled when you saw the girl, I do not know. There are many complications here. Journey of your own essence must be achieved first, of course. There are different ways in which such journeying occurs.
In some instances the physical body stays in its original location, and the personality-essence moves through camouflage space and time. That is, the personality-essence, realizing that space and time are merely camouflages, is therefore free to behave accordingly.

 In this instance of traveling by personality-essence, any contact would be telepathic, and a potential observer would see nothing, using the outer senses alone.

(“Wouldn’t such an occurrence frighten the observer or recipient?”)

Not in the instance mentioned. Another method is somewhat more complicated and involves a diffusion of energies, a partially-visible secondary camouflage body appearing in a new location, while the original body remains in its original position.

In this case the body would appear visible on the bed while another, identical body would appear in the new location to which the personality-essence had traveled. In this case a potential observer would see what would appear to be an ordinary physical being.

Conversation could then be carried on. There are gradations in the degree of materialization here, in that the secondary body would be absolutely normal-appearing in all respects, or could be less so, according to the ability of the traveler.

You have done very well this evening.

(“Can you tell us anything about the girl I saw?”)

The girl was merely a secretary, standing by the window and on her way to another office.

(“Did I have the location of the office correct?”)

You did.”



Then further on in this session, Seth says the following, which I think is very interesting:


“For the future, keep still another possibility in mind, that of picking up an object from the location to which you have traveled, and bringing it back with you as proof. This is difficult in the extreme, but it is far from impossible.

The reason that these things are done so infrequently is because the personality-essence finds itself so unable to give up belief in camouflage time and space. You must be convinced, deeply, not only that such feats are possible, but that you can achieve them; and then you must also train yourself to perfect your own abilities.”


Have you ever read about or heard anyone who said that saw or experienced a
bi-location (not OOBE) experience before?

jbseth.

 

I'm so sorry for misunderstanding, but would you please clarify one thing. How do you work in a given area? like what exactly do you do? For example, let's say that i have a belief that money doesn't flow to me because i think that i'm not a smart person. I identified my current belief, but what should i do with it? Should i use affirmations like: "i'm a smart person" and so on? Thank you so much for the help that you offered to me T.M. I really appreciate it.

Hi Dave, Hi All,

I don’t know if you’ve come across this or not, but below is a long quote regarding a three prong method for altering your beliefs from Seth. This quote comes from “The Nature of Personal Reality”, Chapter 4, Session 619.

This quote can be found closer to the end of Session 619 and the first sentence of this quote starts in the middle of the paragraph that begins with the sentence, “Few beliefs are intellectual alone.”

I’m intentionally not going to use quotes here just to make it easier to read. However this entire quote all comes together on one page in my copy of this book.

jbseth



There are various ways of altering the belief by substituting its opposite. One particular method is three-pronged. You generate the emotion opposite the one that arises from the belief you want to change, and you turn your imagination in the opposite direction from the one dictated by the belief. At the same time, you consciously assure yourself that the unsatisfactory belief is an idea about reality and not an aspect of reality itself.

You realize that ideas are not stationary. Emotions and imagination move them in one direction or the other, reinforce them or negate them.
 
(Pause at 11:23.) Quite deliberately you use your conscious mind playfully, creating a game as children do, in which for a time you completely ignore what seems to be in physical terms and “pretend” that what you really want is real.

If you are poor, you purposely pretend that you have all you need financially. Imagine how you will spend your money. If you are ill, imagine playfully that you are cured. See yourself doing what you would do. If you cannot communicate with others, imagine yourself doing so easily. If you feel your days dark and pointless, then imagine them filled and joyful.

Now this may sound impractical, yet in your daily life you use your imagination and your emotions often at the service of far less worthy beliefs; and the results are quite clear – and let me add, unfortunately practical.

As it took a while for the unsatisfactory beliefs to becomes materialized, so it may be a time before you see physical results; but the new ideas will take growth and change your experience as certainly as the old ones did. The process of imagining with bring you face to face with other subsidiary ideas that may momentarily bring you up short. You may see where you held two quite conflicting ideas simultaneously, and with equal vigor. In such a case, you stalemated yourself.