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Seth-Related Discussions / Re: Do animals reincarnate?
« Last post by Deb on August 20, 2019, 05:43:42 PM »
I think I read the Chopra book, that sounds familiar. It was just another step towards finding Seth. I remember him saying that someone had psychic contact with or a dream about a parent who in life was a real problem, but in the afterlife the true essence of the person was warm and loving—their pure self unpolluted by whatever burdens they carried in life.

I love the Sheldrake experiment. I've had some amazing personal experiences with animals and for some reason get emotional over instances of deep communication with animals—something about realizing there was contact that went beyond than the surface stuff and was a pure meeting of spirit or mind.

Quote from: jbseth
dogs have a very acute sense of smell. Perhaps they smell the scent of their owners from the clothes that their owners were wearing when they were buried.

Wow, that's an amazing sniffer if a dog can smell its human through the embalming fluid and other chemicals, a lined and sealed coffin, a concrete over-coffin and six feet of dirt!

Here's a story: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5418077/Peace-dog-slept-masters-grave.html  The cemetery was a long way from where the owner lived and the dog had never been to the cemetery before. But he managed to find both the cemetery and the correct tomb. Supposedly. :)

If dogs are more in touch with the 'real' reality than we are, you would think it would realize the person it loved was a soul and not the body that it occupied for a while.

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Questions / Explanations / Re: Sathya Sai Baba and Uri Geller
« Last post by Deb on August 20, 2019, 05:27:47 PM »
Quote from: jbseth
What do you think? Was Sathya Sai Baba legitimate?
Was Uri Geller legitimate?

Boy, that's a tough one. I tend to think anything is possible, but would not be able to say they specifically were legitimate unless I saw them do something with my own eyes.

I can say that I have had a CSS book disappear a few years ago (I think I told the story somewhere here). I emailed the author to tell him my book vanished and I loved it so much that I was buying it a second time. He was tickled and sent me a replacement for free. When I went to put the new book on my office shelf that the old one used to occupy, the old book was there. I only had 3 books on that entire shelf, ones I referred to constantly, so it wasn't lost in the crowd. It had been missing for a few weeks. No one else in my house is the least bit interested in CSS and wouldn't have known I had the book, let alone borrow it.

I read The Scole Experiment many years ago. It was a small group of people in England that were doing experiments in the basement of an old farm house using mediums to communicate with spirits (one of them being Thomas Edison!). The book was so dry it was believable. They had things apparate during these sessions and had quite a collection of artifacts: old jewelry, photos, old newspapers in pristine condition and photographic film locked in a box imprinted with some fascinating stuff. https://www.thescoleexperiment.com/the-scole-experiment-overview.html Could they have made it all up? Of course. Just like Jane and Rob could have. Why would they? I don't know. They didn't make a fortune off it all. Most people have never heard of it.

I just found out that they made a documentary. I'll have to watch it tonight. It's probably as slow as the book was. Which is what made it so believable for me: no drama or sensationalism. Just the facts ma'am.

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Questions / Explanations / Re: Sathya Sai Baba and Uri Geller
« Last post by T.M. on August 20, 2019, 02:48:05 PM »
Hi Jbseth,

Stuart was a metaphysical author. He said he mentored Wayne Dyer, and Deepak Chopra. He had a small dedicated following.
His thing was enlightenment on the quick. Drop all the unnecessary rules, craft your own way.

With the objects out of thin air. I think it's just a solidified mental pattern. :)
Once you think of say a $100 bill. That does exist, and by thinking about it, it exists in the aether. If one concentrates enough, one can "clothe it with matter" and bring it through to the physical plane :)

I think that's how it goes. If I knew for sure I would have no shortage of $100 bills, lol.
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Questions / Explanations / Re: Sathya Sai Baba and Uri Geller
« Last post by jbseth on August 20, 2019, 02:34:20 PM »
Hi T.M.,

I think that its possible that Sathya Sai Baba materialized things and I also think that its possible that Uri Geller actually bent spoons and didn't use magic to do so.

This relates to personal belief.

Those people who don't believe that these types of things are possible, would either never experience them in their reality, or if they did, then they wouldn't believe them. I think, a belief, a personal belief, that this is why people like Randi, insist that Uri Geller is a fake and a fraud. They don't "believe", another personal belief, that this is possible.

On the other hand, those people who do believe that these types of things are possible, would be open to the possibility that these things can happen. Thus, if they did experience something like this, then they might be surprised but they wouldn't necessarily insist that this was some sort of magic trick.

Then again, there are people who are very good at performing magic. Some of these people can make it appear that a spoon was bent, or an object appeared out of nothingness by using a sleigh of hand trick.

We may never know whether Sathya Sai Baba actually materialized objects out of nothingness or not, or whether Uri Geller is a gifted psychic or a gifted magician, but we can know, whether we believe that these things are possible or not.


By the way, who's Stuart Wilde? I'm not sure I ever heard of him.

-jbseth








 
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Questions / Explanations / Re: Sathya Sai Baba and Uri Geller
« Last post by T.M. on August 20, 2019, 01:23:27 PM »
Hi Jbseth,

I know Stuart Wilde said it was possible to materialize objects out of thin air, and to bi-locate. So I do think it's possible.
I wouldn't doubt that Uri Teller can bend spoons, and other objects. I think I saw a vid of him doing that on a show like Johnny Carson years ago.
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Questions / Explanations / Sathya Sai Baba and Uri Geller
« Last post by jbseth on August 19, 2019, 07:25:30 PM »
Hi All,

Over the years, I’ve become aware of 2 people who seemingly have been able to perform some incredible feats. Here I’m referring to Sathya Sai Baba and Uri Geller.

It was claimed that Sathya Sai Baba could materialize objects like rings out of nothing.

In addition to this, it was also claimed that Uri Geller, could bend metal spoons using just the power of his mind.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathya_Sai_Baba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uri_Geller


What do you think? Was Sathya Sai Baba legitimate? That is, could he actually materialize objects out of nothing?


What do you think? Was Uri Geller legitimate? That is, could he actually bend metal spoons with just the power of his mind?


-jbseth

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Seth-Related Discussions / Re: What are "The Grey" Aliens
« Last post by T.M. on August 19, 2019, 07:15:50 PM »
Hi Jbseth,

Thank you :)

I agree Jane Roberts is the real thing!  I have 4 of the Early Sessions, 1, 2 ,3 & 9. Also book 9 of the Personal sessions. I'm finding a treasure trove of information in them!  I can't wait to get them all.
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Seth-Related Discussions / Re: What are "The Grey" Aliens
« Last post by jbseth on August 19, 2019, 06:49:12 PM »
Quote from: T.M.
Hi Jbseth,I probably should have mentioned she does tear apart what she believes to be charlatans.  That's why I referenced the 1st half of the vid. I didn't mean to drag you through the 2nd half, sorry.


Hi T.M.,

No problem.  :)
Over the years, there have been several people that I've had questions about, in regards to whether or not they are actually legitimate.

For me, Jane Roberts is not one of these.

-jbseth










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Seth-Related Discussions / Re: What are "The Grey" Aliens
« Last post by T.M. on August 19, 2019, 12:13:20 PM »
Hi Jbseth,

I probably should have mentioned she does tear apart what she believes to be charlatans.  That's why I referenced the 1st half of the vid. I didn't mean to drag you through the 2nd half, sorry. :)

She does really good vids about early civilizations, on video, which she refers to as Atlantis. She has captured some amazing footage.

I agree it's hard to tell who's honest and who's selling a song and dance. It does put a bad light on the good ones.
I like the quote from Kierkegaard !
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Seth-Related Discussions / Re: What are "The Grey" Aliens
« Last post by jbseth on August 19, 2019, 11:55:45 AM »
Hi T.M.,

Hey, I watched the video and yes the commentator does talk about both the Sumari and the Sumerian culture.


Actually, during perhaps the first half of the video, she talks quite a bit about Seth’s various ideas and concepts having to do with space and time and the Sumerian culture.

Then, at about the middle of the video she starts talking about why the stories written by
Zecharia Sitchin don’t match what she had just mentioned regarding the origins of the Sumerian culture.

She then tells the story that apparently in one of his books, Mr. Sitchin has a photograph of an alien spaceship still hanging there out lonely in the desert of the middle east.

A Russian researcher decided to go see this space ship. He asked Mr. Sitchin for the coordinates of the location and Mr. Sitchin asked for a very large amount of money for them. Given this, since the Russians were very determined, they decided to use the map given in the book and spent a lot of time researching this actual location.

Then, after they determined the location, they went to this location and discovered that a natural rock, at a given angle and the proper light did look interesting but had nothing alien or spaceship about it.

Then this commentator says that Mr. Sitchin was one of the many fantasy writers who wanted to become rich by adding artificial fraudulent validity to their fantasies by making them look scholarly.  And people believed it. And Mr. Sitchin died a rich man.


I think this commentator hit upon a very important point. Not only about pseudo historical scholars but with a lot of the people that we talk about in the group. I think that there are a lot of people who make things up (pick a subject: ghosts, ufo’s, OOBe’s, cHanneler’s psychics, mediums, haunted houses, etc.) and then sell books or maybe even themselves via public appearances and make money on this.

I also think that there are people with very legitimate skills and capabilities.

It’s sometimes very difficult to tell which is which.


I’m reminded of a recent quote I heard from Soren Kierkegaard.

There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

-jbseth
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